Byronic's fluffy Ogres - Finished army shot in last post.

Hi Guys, having really enjoyed painting up an Ogre army for someone else (I think it's over 3000 points, finally finished off his level 4 today, I'll get some pictures up in my other thread soon!).

Thankfully given the size of the commission work I did I've had a good selection of the models to paint, the only things I haven't done are (I think); the Giant, Yetis, Gorgers, and gnoblars, based on this here are the very complicated criteria for army list creation I came up with:

Byron's fail safe dual principles of how to make a tournament winning list
Prettiness/nice-to-paintability of models
LOOOOOOW model count (I actually want to own an army of my own...and fast)

Ironblasters are horrible to paint unless you've got 5 days, so they're not in, I hear they're no good in gaming terms anyway, gnoblars will take my model count over 30 (yes I'm aiming that low), I can't afford maneaters, and I loooooove the thundertusk model, enough for two of them, and the mournfang models (with some modification/pretty severe trip to the dentist and saddlery..)

LvL4 (Maw)
LvL2(beasts)/Firebelly
BsB

9 Bulls, Ahw - all having swords
6 Ironguts, again all with as close to swordy things as pos.

4Mournfang
3/4Mournfang
Sabretusk
Sabretusk

Thundertusk
Thundertusk

The thundertusks are next, once they're both done and my core are finished that'll be 1100points, originally this was meant to be a speed painting project but I like the models/went overboard on details for that to be true any more, the core took me 4 days (fairly solid days at that) to get to where they are currently+an hour and a bit to do the tattoos on all of them, so once all of the gut plates are weathered they'll have taken the best part of 5 days I guess.

I'll put my Ogre Achievements Here, and edit them into this post to avoid excess spamming

Ogre Achievements

1. Gettin Started - Play a game of warhammer using the new ogre book
2. Going Large - Play a game of warhammer of over 2000 points using the new ogre book
3. Brace for impact! - During a game, an ogre unit successfully charges and rolls 10+ on the dice
4. I'm in charge! - play a game with the new book using a tyrant in your army
5. Incoming! - during a game, lose at least 3 ogres to a single war machine shot
6. look what we can do! - have a mornfang rider successfully parry an attack
7. Oooo, shiny! - buy one of the models new to the ogre range
8. That's huge! - build a stonehorn or thundertusk model
9. Sigh! - lose more than 3 ogres to any one casting of a spell that involved you taking an initiative test as part of it's resolution
10. I didn't mean it lads - lose a spellcaster to the "snake eyes" effect of grut's sickle
11. Boom! Hur, Hur, Hur - field a unit of 5+ leadbelchers and shoot with them at least 4 times in a single game.
12. Say hello to my little friend! - field an ironblaster in your army
13. Still loving it - play 5 games using the new book rules
14. Crush the thinlings - take a new book ogre army to a tournament
15. getting colder - field a thundertusk OR a unit of yhetees in your army
16. it's freezing! - field more than one thunder tusk AND a unit of yhettes in your army
17. Getting warmer! - field a firebelly in your army
18. Hot! Hot! - field more than one firebelly in your army
19. Unleash Hell! - field 2 scraplaunchers and 2 iron blasters in your army
20. One for the cauldron - paint an ogre model and post it on the stronghold
21. Paint a unit of ogres
22. Here Kitty! - field 1 or more lone sabretusks in your army
23. Win a game using ogres vs. beastmen.
24. Win a game using ogres vs. Dwarfs
25. Does this taste funny to you? - Win a game using ogres vs. Daemons of chaos
26. Win a game using ogres vs. High elves
27. Win a game using ogres vs. Wood elves
28. Win a game using ogres vs. Dark elves
29. franzfurters - Win a game using ogres vs. Empire
30. Tastes like chicken - Win a game using ogres vs. Lizardmen
31. Stake Out - Win a game using ogres vs. Vampire counts
32. Past their sell-by date - win a game using ogres vs. Tomb kings
33. Eat your greens - Win a game using ogres vs. orcs and goblins
34. Win a game using ogres vs. Warriors of chaos
35. Overtyrant - win a game using ogres vs. Ogres
36. Tinned food - win a game using ogres vs. Bretonnia
37. Rats! - win a game using ogres vs. Skaven
38. Convert one of the new range of ogre models
39. Oops! - destroy either a scraplauncher or an ironblaster with a misfire
40. We don't bicker! - field an army containing 4+ units of gnoblars
41. No auto-wounds for you! - have a butcher or slaughtermaster get hit with a poisoned attack
42. What's that  coming over the hill? - field a unit of 4+ mornfangs
43. Now you see me - field a unit of scouting maneaters
44. Hunger! - field 3 gorgers in an army
45. Hahahaha! - kill 3+ models in a single use of the gnoblar trappers rule.
46. Fork in the eye! - kill an enemy character with a scraplauncher killing blow
47. I'm special - field any one of the ogre special characters in your army
48. The maw! - successfully use the large template version of the maw spell to kill an enemy model
49. the maw the merrier! - have the large template version ofmaw spell roll a misfire and kill one or more of your ogres.
50. Oh no you don't - use the greedy fist item to consume the magical properties of a weapon
51. I Heart you - use the hellheart to cause miscasts in 2+ enemy wizards in one use.
52. hole is where the heart is - cause an enemy wizard to dimensional cascade and go down a hole using the hellheart.
53. Its mine, MINE! - use the gnoblar Thiefstone to steal an item from an enemy character.
54. Just the lads - field an army containing ONLY ogres, no animals, gnoblars, etc.  Bonus if you also win.
55. You can't touch this - pass a 4+ ward vs flaming with a firebelly.
56. Start a gnoblog for your ogre army
57. Update pics into your ogre gnoblog on at least 4 seperate occasions.
58. Use the thunder mace in a game to kill 10+ models with thunder crush attacks (does not have to be all in one attack)
59. Why do I bother? - lose 3 games in a row with your ogre army
60. Overpowered! - win 3 games in a row with your ogre army.
61. That's no place for a hatchet - roll a 2 on the scraplauncher misfire chart
62. Jugger! - roll a 10+ when successfully charging with a stone horn
63. Re-roll this! - subject 3+ high elf units to numbing chill in the same combat phase
64. Oh shi-! - Have a slaughermaster or butcher die from rolling a 1 on Bloodgruel.
65. Seigebroken - Hit a building with Seigebreaker.
66. OH GOD MY FACE! - Kill an enemy character with  the chaintrap from the Thundertusk.
67. Dancing On Sunshine -. Have a character pass his Initative test from being hit by Purple Sun
68. Sunburned - Kill an Ogre with a Purple Sun that YOU cast.
69. Why Can't I Hold All These Items? - Roll 120pts for Golgfag magic item allowance.
70. Buffy The Ogre Caster - Have all of your Slaughtermasters spells be augments.
71. It's Rude To Bragg - Have Bragg kill a Large Target in a challenge.
72. WHAT THE FU-BOOOM! - Destroy an enemy model with an Ironblaster misfire. 
73. Soups on! -  Have Skrag kill enough models to unlock all of his special rules in one game
74. Crusher - play 10 games with the new ogre book
75. Bruiser - play 20 games with the new ogre book
76. Tyrant - play 50 games with the new ogre book
77. Maneater - play with the new ogre book in 5 different venues
78. ker-splat! - kill an enemy unit with just your impact hits alone.
79. Box clever - construct, buy or convert a new carry case for your ogre army
80. Altered beast power up! - boost every unit in your army with a single augment from the lore of the great maw
81. ...and you play Ogres!? - Have more war machine weapons in your army than your opponent.
82.  Small, but many -have a gnoblar horde break an enemy unit.
83. We're all there - have a unit of at least 12 ogres get into the enemy deployment zone with no casualties taken.
84. My horde is bigger then yours - have an ogre horde break an enemy horde.
85. So much power lost - have an ogre unit roll 10 or more and still fail a charge.
86. Rambo or Conan? - have a lone ogre lose a combat but pass his break test.
87. You call that a club?.... THIS is a club - cause 6 S10's with Siegebreaker on a unit occupying a building.
88. Ogre zoo - Paint at least one of the Stonehorn, Thundertusk, Mournfang and Sabretusk models.
89. She's a Maaaaaneater! - paint the female Maneater model.
90. They're not bloody Eagles you know! - Run a Hunter in a unit of 5 or more Sabretusks.
91. But they're soooo cute! - Fill your whole core with Gnoblars.
92. Bird brained - kill an enemy model with a hunter's blood vulture.
93. Timber! - lose an ogre when a giant (yours or your opponent's) falls on one of your units.
94. Thinling roast! - kill 5 enemy models with a single firebelly breath weapon blast
95. Cats paw - Kill a skaven weapon team with a sabretusk
96. Halitosis - use 3 breath weapon attacks in a single game.
97. Billy no-mates - field an army with only 1 character in it.  He cannot deploy in a unit or join one.  Bonus if he survives the game.
98. Steady now! - Use freehand to paint a banner for an ogre unit
99. Da lads! - post a pic of your entire army on the stronghold in your ogre gnoblog.
100. Feast master - place 1st, or best in race, at a tournament.
101. Brrrr! - field more than one thundertusk in your army OR more than one unit of yhettes in your army

As ever if you're curious as to any recipes or techniques I used in painting my guys feel free to ask, it's not likeI' going to be able to offer any tactical advice so I may as well try and make up for it

Cheers for looking all, some progress coming soon hopefully!

Byron

Hi chaps, apologies for the delay, here's some pictures!:







29models and 2400points: win!

Sweet painting and excellent tatoos!

Odd list though.

Woah! Nice! As mentioned above, the tattoos are especially impressing

Regards
Danne

Woah! Nice! As mentioned above, the tattoos are especially impressing

Regards
Danne

Cheers mate, I'm planning on doing a tutorial on them in the near future; I've discovered a hugely helpful trick for doing them which the world should know

Sweet painting and excellent tatoos!

Odd list though.

Cheers bud, I know - I've had about 6 games with it so far and I'm really loving it, that could be because I've not faced a cannon yet though... I'll edit in my reasoning to the top post!

you paint so fast!! 

good work mate,

good army list and well painted minis, why don't you like the ironblaster, to much different parts to paint??? i know that the reason why i don't started it yet.

matt

I am really liking the bases and the ink

Wow! Nice job!
I would like to see more your ogres! 

you paint so fast!! 

Haha, not as fast as you think bud, I spent a bit of time on these over xmas

good work mate,

good army list and well painted minis, why don't you like the ironblaster, to much different parts to paint??? i know that the reason why i don't started it yet.

matt

Cheers Matt, I was quite happy with the one I painted for the other army, but it has TOO MANY DETAILS! I just hated it by the end

I am really liking the bases and the ink

Cheers Johnny, I'll get a tattoo tutorial up soon, maybe a basing one as well, they're both simple, just takes a bit of prior knowledge/sneaky shortcuts.

Wow! Nice job!
I would like to see more your ogres! 

Tah Wiedzmin;they're on their way ! (slowly)





Also I really want opinions on how low to set my mournfang riders please chaps, which of these is best/worst?



Please let me know, they're something I'm hoping to start painting pretty soon, the sooner you let me know the sooner I can procrastinate and paint them slower than I pledge to.....

The lower the better if  you ask me. The Mournfangs are great models, especially the Ogre bits on them are really a step up from the basic plastics, but the high saddles ruin them for me. Since your left version seems a little lower than your right one I'd go with that.

I think the lower version puts the emphasis more on the Mournfang while the higher saddle puts it on the Ogre. So it depends on which part of the model you want to emphasize? I like the lower saddle but you will need to fill the gap or add something to make it less apparent.

one thing that helped me decide on the height is the gutplate... the mournfang's gutplate really gets in the way if you go too low. You could go with a different gutplate, but i personally think those are the best looking one.

Man they look a treat!

The Mournfangs look very nice without the saddles, mine are heading in the same direction but with saddle blankets, pouches etc.

Keep us posted and show us the tattoo tutorial soon please, your Bulls look fantastic.

That thundertusk is looking sweet! Care to share the fur recipe?
And I dunno why everyone hates the standard mournfang saddles, I reckon the look pretty cool

I am not really sold.  They remind me of Harleys now with apebars.  Does not scream calvary to me, it screams motor-kitty

Remember they should also be high enough that they can swing weapons without removing the back of the Mournfang.

personally, i don't really like the low rider mournfang...i like the ogre to be prominant and bellowing!

thundertusk looks bloody awesome so far man! can't wait to see the final beast 

Firstly thanks for all of your responses guys: that's why I love this forum; I asked and you delivered!

The lower the better if  you ask me. The Mournfangs are great models, especially the Ogre bits on them are really a step up from the basic plastics, but the high saddles ruin them for me. Since your left version seems a little lower than your right one I'd go with that.

Cheers buddy, that's what I was veering toward as well, however I was worried this may make it look like the rider was 'slipping off' the back, I've tried to remedy this (bottom of post).

Remember they should also be high enough that they can swing weapons without removing the back of the Mournfang.

Good point, this got me thinking... maybe a way to lean sideways in their saddle to sideswipe at people (again bottom post I've tried to address this)

That thundertusk is looking sweet! Care to share the fur recipe?
And I dunno why everyone hates the standard mournfang saddles, I reckon the look pretty cool

Of course bud, check out dreadboi's thundertusk tutorial to see how I applied the first few colours, I followed the preshading and wash steps pretty much to the letter

Base (over preshade) My GW version of Vallejo 'hemp', snakebite leather with a touch of chaos black.

(prehighlight)

Then dheneb stone

Sepia wash all over!

Highlight each bit of fur with my GW alternative to offwhite: Skull white + shadow grey + Dheneb

2nd highlight - more white in mix

3rd highlight even more white.

That's it

I think the lower version puts the emphasis more on the Mournfang while the higher saddle puts it on the Ogre. So it depends on which part of the model you want to emphasize? I like the lower saddle but you will need to fill the gap or add something to make it less apparent.

Cheers Randroid, I reckon you're spot on! I have plenty of Ogres elsewhere (well, 15+chars) and I love the dynamic 'front heavy' slightly gorilla like look of the mournfangs themselves (same with the thundetusk), also I've already built up the bases a fair bit so I'm worried that the models would end up about 4inches high or something! I' happy for the mounts to take a fair bit of attention. I think Potter666's cushion idea is a great one, prob be using that, a good way to get an alternate colour on the model as well.

one thing that helped me decide on the height is the gutplate... the mournfang's gutplate really gets in the way if you go too low. You could go with a different gutplate, but i personally think those are the best looking one.

Very very good point, so glad I read this before diving in, glueing everything and then realising my mistake, much appreciated!

Man they look a treat!

The Mournfangs look very nice without the saddles, mine are heading in the same direction but with saddle blankets, pouches etc.

Keep us posted and show us the tattoo tutorial soon please, your Bulls look fantastic.

Cheers potter, consider the saddle blanket idea stolen, I might go for some comfy cushions or something, everyone needs a bit of luxury! I'll try and get the tattoo tutorial done fairly soon, I might have to demonstrate on a bit of paper until I've got a model handy who requires work though.

I am not really sold.  They remind me of Harleys now with apebars.  Does not scream calvary to me, it screams motor-kitty

Cheers Johnny, this is one of the things which got e thinking about the chains; what about with the reins mate (see below), any better for you then?

personally, i don't really like the low rider mournfang...i like the ogre to be prominant and bellowing!

thundertusk looks bloody awesome so far man! can't wait to see the final beast 

When I saw they I first thought they looked ridiuclous, they have grown on me though, however I think that the OK army in general suffers from a lack of dynamic models, I LOVE the mournfang, but I wish they had a bit more movement and looked 'mid-charge' rather than 'about to charge'. In retrospect I should have odeled them facing downhill a little on their bases or something to try and remedy this.

Also like I said with y built up bases they'd just be absolutely huge!

Cheers regarding the 'tusk, I'd have prob cocked it up hugely if it weren't for your tutorial


So here's where I'm at now, again it's got an IF attached by bluetack etc, but please let me know what you think of the reins idea, don't hold back, if you think its a pile of dung then tell me, even better if you've got any other suggestions let me know!





I've made a tutorial thread by the way, and proving my technological ineptitude even further forgot that there was a tutorial subsection to the forum its been gut-barged to the correct place now so from now on that's where I'll be putting full tutorials/article type things (with pics etc). Do however continue to put requests for recipes you're after etc here though.

Linky for the lazy : Tutorials

I love the idea of using chains, but the one shown is too large and chunky imho mate (sorry) something smaller and finer from a craft/hobby store for jewellery may look more realistic....as if a one and a half ton charging cave bear/kitty/beast could be told 'I'm not keen on your chain....'

Looking the business so far though-Ace!

Right idea with the chain reins, but have to agree that they seem just a touch heavy.

I used a lighter, flatter, chain from Accesorise... (think you're UK as well)


http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=22140.0

I love the idea of using chains, but the one shown is too large and chunky imho mate (sorry) something smaller and finer from a craft/hobby store for jewellery may look more realistic....as if a one and a half ton charging cave bear/kitty/beast could be told 'I'm not keen on your chain....'

Looking the business so far though-Ace!

Right idea with the chain reins, but have to agree that they seem just a touch heavy.

I used a lighter, flatter, chain from Accesorise... (think you're UK as well)


http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=22140.0

Cheers for the input guys!

Icecrusher yours looks perfect, can you remember how much it was and how long it is? I've got 8ournfang to do

Also how 'soft' are the links? I want mine properly attached to the model or they'll just break in gameplay, I'll 'glaze' them with superglue regardless but I just want some longevity! Also I'll have to think about how to attach them, I might need some copper wire or something.

Iirc about £12, can't remember length.  Worth looking at the cheap necklace sections of high street shops for chain...

Mine are just superglued to the styrene rings on the tusks and so far haven't shown any weakness.

Truly exquisite! The skintone on the Ogres is just awesome. Great job on colors there! Keep it up, makes me want to paint my ogres even more.

All the best
Legio

Iirc about £12, can't remember length.  Worth looking at the cheap necklace sections of high street shops for chain...

Mine are just superglued to the styrene rings on the tusks and so far haven't shown any weakness.

Cheers bud, I'll see if I can find time to get down to hobbycraft fairly soon

Truly exquisite! The skintone on the Ogres is just awesome. Great job on colors there! Keep it up, makes me want to paint my ogres even more.

All the best
Legio

Thanks! If I've given you some motivation then that'd my good deed for the day sorted

Some picture updates for you guys, please bear in mind the big guy is far from finished, as is the kittykat (he's one of two, both at the same stage), what do you think of the flowers on his base by the way?

As ever your thoughts are welcome, I think I might have to re-do the leather bits which are in snakebite because they're not working for me...