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How should i play versus these Dark Elves?

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So i have a short notice game on Sunday with a friend coming up from home. We plan to try squeeze in one 2400pt game with my Ogres vs his Dark Elves

My army list can be found here

He shall be playing:

LORD - Supreme Sorceress 290 Points
Level 4
Dark steed
Clock of twilight

HERO - Sorceress 140 Points
Level 2
Dispel scroll

HERO - Death Hag 305 Points
Witch brew
Cauldron of blood

CORE - 40 Witch elves 470 Points
Full command

CORE - 5 dark riders 105 Points
Repeater crossbows
Herald

CORE - 5 dark riders 105 Points
Repeater crossbows
Herald

CORE - 5 dark riders 105 Points
Repeater crossbows
Herald

CORE - 15 corsairs 145 Points
Musician

SPECIAL - War hydra 180 Points
Fiery breath

SPECIAL - War hydra 180 Points
Fiery breath

SPECIAL -  9 Shades 144 Points

RARE - Medusa 90 Points

RARE - 5 Doom fire warlocks 135 Points
Master of warlocks

So my plan so far is to use my Ironblasters to quickly knock out those Hydras. Use either Sabretusks or my Ogre dart to chaff up that Deathstar. Maneaters and Lore of Heavens will try dictate the fast cavalry movement

Anything i should be watching?
Samurai Ogres of Nippon

First things first. Is the cauldron hag a bsb?  If yes that is your first target wit blasters.

Get some chaff in front of cauldron and witches and angle to the edge of the board to keep them away from you. Take out everything else befor engaging witches if you engage them at all.  If you have shooting take out warlocks and sorceress. Remember they need five rank and file for look out sir in the warlocks.  Since your friend has a Master of warlocks he doesn't get a lookout for his sorceress. So sniping the sorceress on steed would be a great target.  Bsb number two target thinking about it. Get rid of level 4 with blasters first.
Thank you

The level 4 is difficult to shoot down as she has a 3+ ward against shooting (cloak of twilight)
Samurai Ogres of Nippon

Enough shots with leaders will work sooner or later. Biggest thing is to keep the witches charging chaff. They are frenzied so have to overrun. You should be able to keep them occupied most of the game.
Just saw your list no leadies. The darts can take out sorceress if you can catch her. The MFay even be able to catch the warlocks if they flee.
I would take crusher on darts instead of bellowers. The crusher in front goes into contact with sorceress. ASF happens simul for sorceress and warlocks. Kill crusher then you have seven attacks to kill sorceress. I've had good luck with this setup.
Don't forget that buthcers and SM are imune to poison.  I would have kitted out you SM with the ASF sword.  You stop his ASF rerolls againsy you.  I would target the Cauldron before the hydras.  People have an irraional fear of them.  They aren't as good as they used to be.
Most definitely shoot the cauldron first. The rerolls to wound are massive, but mostly the 5+ ward and MR1 mean you wont do jack to the unit with magic or shooting till it dies.
I do not really have time to write a proper battle report but the game was a 20-0 victory. I ran with lore of undeath over Heavens in the end with Gruts sickle and armour of destiny. Undeath played a major part in this but here are the key points

  • I went first
  • Casket of Souls was summoned early
  • Cauldron was shot off 2nd turn after dreadful shooting in my 1st
  • Witch elves chased 2 dog tails to put them 1 inch away and facing my left hand side table edge
  • Maneaters ate the Corsair bunker
  • Then whittled down wounds on the Hydras
  • Mournfang were not so successful vs Dark Riders and Warlocks
  • Summoned Vargheists were
  • Shades eventually killed an Ironblaster after my Gnoblars acted as speed bumps from some expert deployment
  • Opponents Medusa did not do anything really, what is it supposed to do?  :?
  • Summoned Terrorgheist screamed Witch Elves and was later joined by a Banshee

Overall a really fun game, only losing:
All Sabretusks
Ogre Dart
A unit of Mournfang
An Ironblaster

Reflection:
I can see why Leadbelchers have gained so much popularity with how fast these elves are
Samurai Ogres of Nippon

Medusa has a great shooting attack that ignores armor. Great against high armor. Also wound vs initiative (?) vs tough so are also good vs monsters. Situational at best.
Medusa has a great shooting attack that ignores armor. Great against high armor. Also wound vs initiative (?) vs tough so are also good vs monsters. Situational at best.

Well it certainly did not do anything like that, but thank you for explaining
Samurai Ogres of Nippon

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