Roughneck Tribe - Firebelly!

Hi,

never played Ogres before, but as Dark Elves have become a bit dull I was lured over towards a bit of brute force. So I decided on the Ogre Kingdoms pretty quickly, but made myself the promise that I would paint what I have before getting more models with ogres (as I'm drowning under unpainted DE models).

With that in mind I kicked my tribe off with a Battalion, Slaughtermaster, Sabretusks and Tyrant, which should cover me for around 1000pts. So far I've got hold of my SM and Sabretusks  Still waiting on the bulk of my Ogres to turn up.

I thought I'd log my Ogres progress here for a couple of reasons. First, so I can look back over how and what I've done. Second so I can get some feedback from you guys. Thirdly, to try and keep myself motivated to paint, not just buy models, play games and never finish them.

I've now painted my two Sabretusks. Based in The Fang, layered up with Dawnstone, Rakarth Flesh and final white highlights. The mane I left based in The Fang then brushed over with white (first pic). I wasn't happy and the model looked very flat, although it actually looks better in the pic than it did in real life. So I brushed over the white on the mane with Hoeth Blue (last pic) and the model looks much better for it IMO. Oh, the bases aren't finished in these pics. I can't paint them up until the PVA sets properly, it's easy but slow.

So far so good. I like the idea of the blue undertone. Others have tried something similar here and the results have been really impressive so I would certainly give it a go.

The 'tusks are look good so far, I am looking forward to seeing some more bulls painted so I can see how this army shapes up. Keep up the good work; the blue undertone is really interesting idea-wise, so I am watching out for how it progresses.

G_H

Thanks G_H I'm really looking forward to getting started. Still waiting (impatiently) on my battalion to turn up  Hopefully have some Ogres to share by the weekend.

Original post updated with new pics.

Finally got my hands on some Ogres! Wahey! 

I had a quick game against my brothers Vampire Counts last night, and nicked a sneaky victory. It was all thanks to my Bruiser and 6 'Guts, who took out the Vamp general, chopped a unit of skellys to pieces, and then mopped up a Varghulf, some Vargheists, and some heavily crumbling Crypt Horrors. They were very impressive I must admit. The only downside? There's not much meat on a skelly....

Moved onto painting this evening, and thought I'd share my very first Ogre with the forum for a bit of feedback. Be honest folks! Brutally honest! If you have any criticisms, hints or tips on how to improve my painting I really would love to hear them from you. So here is my first Bull.

Main body painted and highlighted before adding the fiddly bits.


Finished Bull (apart from being based)

I have to admit I really like the grimey wash.  Makes him look really un washed indeed.  Very ogrey.  Can you put up your stages of painting at all?

I will say that you would benefit from romving the mould lines though.  For a nice start to your painting the mould lines detract from generally a good job.

On to basing the little fella next then!

I look forward to seeing more of these guys.

Kind regards Zolas.

The grimey wash on his armour is the Typhus Corrosion technical paint, brushed over a Leadbelcher base. It's really very easy to do. Then I have just touched up edges of armour, his blade etc with Runefang. I'll get some stage pics on my next Ogre for you.

Yea fair point about the moulding lines. Somehow they completely escaped my notice (I'm rather new to this modelling game) but stand out like a sore thumb now you've pointed them out!

The grimey wash on his armour is the Typhus Corrosion technical paint, brushed over a Leadbelcher base. It's really very easy to do. Then I have just touched up edges of armour, his blade etc with Runefang. I'll get some stage pics on my next Ogre for you.

Yea fair point about the moulding lines. Somehow they completely escaped my notice (I'm rather new to this modelling game) but stand out like a sore thumb now you've pointed them out!

I was actually refering to the grimy skin wash sorry about that I should have been more specific.  Yeah I love that Typhus corrosion simply amazing paint to boot.

Kind regards Zolas.

There's no wash used on the skin at all. It's a blue base, and then brushing layers of flesh tones over the top. Stage photos as requested.



First shot is The Fang base, the second shot shows the flesh layers. I've been using Cadian->Kislev->Eldar to build it up, but be careful not to cover the blue in any recesses around muscles etc. Last shot is a finished Crusher.

Ah cool.  Good to know.  Looks amazing regardless.  Thanks for sharing.

Kind regards Zolas.

Hmmm, no washes eh? Very interesting, I can only echo Zolas here and say thanks for sharing that.

G_H

I don't use washes for my skin tone either, but I would not have thought to go blue into flesh colour.  Little things like this help me to think out side of the box. 

Kind regards Zolas.

That's my first unit of Bulls finished. Woohoo! They still need *some* attention like Gnoblars and other "add-on" bits from out the battalion, and basing too. But for now my priority is getting 1500 points painted and playable. The niceties can wait till then 




Now I'm moving onto a painting my SlaughterMaster, and I need to start assembling an IronBlaster I picked up yesterday. I've also got a Tyrant, 4 LeadBelchers and 6 IronGuts waiting for paint too. Going to be busy for a little while before I can expand my army any further 

Well, it's only taken a couple of days but my SlaughterMaster has been a nightmare to paint! The Citadel Finecast is horrible to work with. The amount of molding tabs and un-clear details on the SM was horrendous. Nothing seemed to have molded cleanly. I tried to tidy him up but because he has so many little bits all over him it's not always easy to tell what should be there and what shouldn't! Anyways....

I've gone pretty light with the blood spatter because I didn't want to drench him in gore. Hopefully it works, I quite like it. Just got a chained up Gnoblar and one or two other trinkets to hang off his chains, and that's my bonus pledge done too.

I think you are right to go less with the gore and blood. Too much can make a model look a bit....well, stupid TBH. I think this is the right amount.

If you are open to criticism then my critique would be that, when blood and guts settle on cloth they tend to have more than one colour to them depending on intensity. If I was you (and I am not, I get that  ) I would go back to the blood splatters and, to add some depth, put a few dots of darker red in the centre of the splatters and maybe even a few lighter at the outer edge.

For the ultimate in blood there are two ways of going about this; (that are simple, there are hundreds of ways that are more complicated!) I would suggest in investing in some Tamya "Clear red" paint. It is like a liquid really but it looks like blood. As does the GW product "Blood for the blood god". Both of these things are absolutely great for realistic blood.

To go one stage further; if you mix the Tamya clear red with a tiny amount of black paint or wash this enhances it allot. Even better, if you mix up some of the red in a cup (like a plastic disposable one) and then add a tiny amount of UHU glue this will give you the most amazing "stringy" blood strands, the kind that you see on models by the people who post up their work in Warhammer visions and win Golden Daemon comps.

The latter probably wouldn't be much use for this guy, but it's something to play with in the future, maybe.

In you are not open to criticism then ignore all of the above. 

G_H

Thanks for the input G_H. I'm always happy for criticism, without it how do you find ways to do things better? The glue strands sounds like a brilliant idea!

As for the blood spatter on my SM, it's a mix of doombull brown and khorne red. Blood dries to a kind of dull reddy brown colour, so that was my idea. It doesn't look so vibrant on the model, but on the photo it seems to shine out really red in colour. Your right though, a few spots of wetter, undried blood in the middle would just finish it off. Thanks for the tip!

It's a just over a week into Novembers monthly painting challenge, and as things have gone along quicker than I expected, I thought I'd update my progress. This months pledge was 4 Leadbelchers from the battalion box, and an IronBlaster I picked up a couple of weeks ago.

I have just finished off my Leadbelchers this evening - ignoring a few flames on their lighters because I don't own ANY orange or yellow paints. I've also been making a bit of progress with the IronBlaster, although I've really only tackled the easier bits of the model to paint so far....






Whilst I had the camera out, I thought I'd get a snapshot of my steadily growing army. If I'm honest, this is probably the largest points total I've ever had painted. I'm thoroughly enjoying painting Ogres. Even though I spending similar amounts of time on a unit, it seems so much more manageable painting one big dude, instead of 20 small ones....


And since everyone loves them really, I've put together a box of Gnoblar fighters! Picked off Ebay for £10, they've actually been serving me remarkably well in games by delaying and distracting enemy chaff. The one thing I've found with ogres is you can't afford to let your main units be distracted, so these guys have felt pretty important for me so far. They might see less use as points escalate though.

Brief update on the remaining IronBlaster progress for this months painting challenge. It's coming along slowly, and I have a lot of the "add-on" bits left to glue, prime, and paint, plus the ogre himself, a gnoblar driver, some wheels! I *should* get done by the end of the month, but it's certainly taking up some time.






I really have to say a great big thank you to Zolas for the inspiration and tips I've gleaned from his Gnoblog and the wonderful IronBlaster he painted. (If anyone hasn't seen it, check it out here!) I hope you don't mind me using your painting as a bit of a guide, and your tips on painting woods were just unbelievably helpful.

I really have to say a great big thank you to Zolas for the inspiration and tips I've gleaned from his Gnoblog and the wonderful IronBlaster he painted. (If anyone hasn't seen it, check it out here!) I hope you don't mind me using your painting as a bit of a guide, and your tips on painting woods were just unbelievably helpful.

Thank you very much!  I just happy it's helping.  Your Ironblaster is really coming along and looking great!

Any chance on a birds eye view of the wooden door???

Kind regards Zolas.

Thanks Zolas, I just hope it performs as well as your one did in the tournament!

Here's a birds-eye of the door. After seeing yours, I realised I always paint my woods too dark, so I opted for very yellowy browns, XV88 + Balor Brown, with the Sepia + Agrax washes as you described. I did the gate on the back as a darker wood, as it's clearly a different piece of scrap I didn't want it to blend into the rest of the chassis.
Sorry the photo's not great, I try with different light, flash on and off, but never seem to get the model looking the same in the picture as it does to the eye...


Now, if you could just start work on a Thundertusk so I can follow your lead on that one too 

Looking great buddy! I'm glad the the info for the wood helped out and it does look really great while being really simple at the same time.

As for the Thundertusk I fear you may be waiting a while, but I will see what I can do. 

Kind regards Zolas.

Novembers monthly paint challenge is now done and dusted! The IronBlaster is complete, alongside the Leadbelchers I finished earlier this month. I'm quite pleased with this months work, and I'm thoroughly enjoying painting my ogres and seeing an army starting to form. Next up, some IronGuts and a Bruiser BSB to paint.

This month has slowed down a bit, but I've been working on my main Bruiser BSB model, and a secondary stand-in BSB for if I want to field the first as a Tyrant.

Both models will have a barrel on the base, which is drilled so I can plug my battlestandard onto either model. I've cobbled together a standard which will have a Rhinox head mounted on it. I need to attempt some green stuffing to get it sat onto the standard properly, which I'm apprehensive about. The sum total of my green stuff experience pops up later in this post....



Here is my main BSB or Tyrant coming along.



And a friend bought me an imperial maneater for my birthday, which was pretty cool. Just turned up in the post! I've done a little green stuff work to fill in his puffy shoulders so I can paint them as armour plates, added some spikes onto one, and greenstuffed a new "neck" so that I can fit my spare Tyrant head onto the model instead of the Empire styled feather head (although the baby gnoblar made it difficult to throw in the bits box instead of use!). It was my first ever green stuff work and although not complex, I found it surprisingly tricky to get things to look right. Every time I tried to shape it, the whole blob would move, come away from the model, etc. Practice practice practice I guess!

Well I've had quite a bit less time on my hands to keep my army ticking over the last month or two. Still, making some steady progress with a finished BSB and some headless Ironguts.

The BSB has had a barrel put onto his base, which I have drilled. This houses his standard, so I can remove it for transport, and so I can have a secondary BSB model, with another barrel to fit the standard, if I want to run my main guy as a Tyrant. So here he is.






The banner needs a bit of a freehand tribal symbol painting on, but I need to practice a bit (and get a bit braver) before I try and attempt that.

And just to keep up to date with my pledge for the monthly painting challenge, here is some progress on my Irongut unit, who are just waiting to have their heads painted and glued on. I've also got my standard bearer who doesn't have a lick of paint on him yet.


I've entered my first tournament this Saturday, so I need to really have them ready for then. It's given me a bit of a kick up the backside to get on with some painting again. Once this months painting challenge is done, I'm hoping to get some photos of my army at the tournament, and have a pop at writing up a couple of battle reports for my games there. Provided I don't get wiped off the table in two turns....

I like the Bruiser/Tyrant/BSB adaptability, well executed
and the Rhinox head is..brilliant!

Good look on Saturday

Coming together very nicely.  Well done.

Thanks for the nice comments guys. Hopefully soon I will be able to get some full army shots.

As a side note, I had a game against my brothers VC army to play test my list for this weekends tournament, which went well with a crushing victory on points, and him resigning at the end of the 4th turn. My Mournfangs did the most damage I have ever seen from 3 models, racking up 26 points of combat resolution with a rear charge on a 50ish strong skeleton block. They wiped it in a single round with the crumble effect. Talk about a meat-grinder, I need to get those guys into combat with standard infantry far more often!

Final pics on my IronGuts with full command to complete this months painting challenge. I wasn't sure I'd get my BSB done, but as it turns out time has magically appeared for me this last couple of days.

The block of 7 houses my Slaughtermaster and BSB, and forms the main block in my army, so it's about time I got them painted. They need basing, but I cant really find the drive to base anything with the 9th rumours flying around. As I've plenty of models to be painting, the basing can wait a while.

Nice update, what's happening with those bases however?  What are you going to do with them anyway?

That's a good question!

I did get a bit of basing done, but never put any pictures up. I've gone for a rocky tundra style base.

Well I haven't Gnoblogged in a little while. Mostly because I don't often have much interesting to report, and my painting progress has slowed a little.

I do however have an interesting game scheduled at my local gaming group for tomorrow night. He wants to practice a Comp for a tournament which I haven't encountered before. 2500 points, no lords allowed, no duplicate hero's, specials or rares. Max. 2 duplicates in core.

So this game is looking like good fun. It is giving me the chance to try out a few different units, which I don't usually use due to extra points being freed up, and not being allowed to use duplicate units. That means 1 sabretusk, so I get to break out two units of Gnoblar Trappers for my chaff! Wahey, looking forward to rocking some of the little green dudes. I've also thrown in a Gorger for good measure.

On the painting front, I've been working on my Firebelly for this months painting challenge. I've been listening to the football on the radio (Nottingham Forest fan, and they are actually winning!..for the minute) and finishing off my Firebellys gutplate. The finecast didn't really produce the ropes which hang the firebeetles head from the gutplate. So I shaved the remnants away and treated the entire gutplate as though it was a firebeetle shell. Let me know what you think to him! Sorry about the grainy photos, I use my mobile and the camera is rubbish!

Looking good, would like to see it based. Firmly believe a model is made when it is based

I do agree with that, it certainly makes a big difference. I've been doing my basing in batches, rather than model by model as it's much easier and quicker that way I find. I've quite a few painted ogres in need of basing, so I will be getting round to it soon. 9th base rumours had put me off, but I'm not going to leave everything un-based until then so I best get some done.