2000pts Skaven Vs Ogres

Hey played my first game against skaven on Tuesday
My buddy challenged me after I won my first tournament.
Was left a little disappointed if im honest, we need a re-match as he left his case with the big stuff at his GF's.
So My list can be found at - http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=26583.0

His list consisted of (Sorry I don't have a copy)

25 Plague monks, 40 slaves (2x20), Great horned Rat, 2 Casters (level 2) 2 Units of 20 clan rats with rattling gun, 2 units of 3 jez's and a unit of 6 Rat ogres (with regen and a character? I think )
Sorry I didn't ask him for his list before I left so this is from memory, the units are correct but I don't have upgrades etc. Also like I said above, this was a bit of a disappointing game as he didn't bring anything nasty Probably for the best since Its my first game against them lol.

Deployment, I deployed mostly centrally, cannon on right flank Sabres on left. He deployed jez''s on his left (with my cannon) and everything else was central except his horned rat + plague monks.

No vanguard or scouts
He won turn 1.

Turn 1 - Skaven
Movement-
He marched everything forward.
Magic -
He skitterleaped his mage with cracks call to the flank of my mfc
He cast cracks call, I failed dispel, He rolled 4x1 for distance he was 6" away! I don't think ive ever been so close 
Then he cast some lightning but I dispelled (I had dispel dice left because I didn't know what cracks call was)
Shooting -
He shot his jez's and took 1 wound off my cannon.

Turn 1 - Ogres
Movement -
I backed up slightly with my bulls and guts (tactically not a coward )
Sabretusks marched out of the charge arcs of his units and behind his horned rat.
Charged my MFC (LONG charge) into his clan rats flank - Lost 5 wounds to stand and fire!? OMG
Magic -
Cast max level fireball on 6 dice at his horned rat. Dispelled.
Cast 2nd level fireball on his rat ogres. Failed to cast
Shooting -
Cannon turned his level 2 that skitter leaped into a fine mist
Combat - (we done this combat twice because of a rule dispute, I got a flank charge that should have nullified his leadership bonus from ranks, however he said because I didn't have an additional rank it didn't disrupt it, is this correct?) We went with it in the end and he passed his fear in that case.
Impact hits with 2 MFC (Only got 2 in from positioning) killed 3 rats
I took 1 wound in return from all attacks. and killed a grand total of 9 more rats
He fled and I failed my Ld test to reform so pursued 1"behind, rattling gun also ran.

Turn 2 - Skaven
Movement -
He moved everything up towards my ogres, great rat moved out of my arc (for the bulls)
Magic -
He cast a "toxic cloud" spell (sorry don't know the name) done no wounds to me and killed 3 plague rats
Everything else was failed or dispelled
Shooting -
Jez's shot cannon and done nothing, rattling gun shot MFC and done nothing with 18 shots.

Turn 2 - Ogres
Movement - Declared charge with my ogres on plague monks to get out of the horned rats charge arc and rolled double 1 
Ironguts got charge on slaves (they were in the way of anything else)
MFC Swift re-formed and moved towards the rear of other clan rats. Sabres decared charge on the fleeing clan rats and ran them down, other one ran down the rattling gun.
Magic - Failed to cast fireball twice
Shooting -
Cannon misfired and turned into a chariot!
Combat -
Need I describe what happened to the slaves with my guts + characters? Didn't take any wounds, and killed them to the man.

Turn 3 - Skaven
Movement -
Charged plague monks + horned rat into ogres, Rat ogres failed to charge cannon on 1,2 Clan rats reformed to face MFC.
Magic -
I used Hellheart! rolled 6 but there was only 2 casters within 12" anyway so... lol
Level 2 caster lost all his magic levels and 5 power dice, horned rat got "detonation" so my firebelly took a S10 hit and lost wound
He had 1 dice left and never got anything off.
Shooting -
Jez's missed everything, rattling gun got misfire and done nothing.
Combat -
Great horned rat done 2 wounds on rank and file ogres, I got 2 parries!
Plague monks used their 2d6 S2 hits banner and done nothing, killed 1 more wound.
In return I dealt two wounds to the Horned rat, and killed 3 Plague monks (draw)

Turn 3 - Ogres
Movement -
I charged MFC into clanrats, charged my cannon into rat ogres, charged my Ironguts into more slaves, charged my sabre tusk into his remaining level 0 wizard.
Magic -
I got 1 level 3 fireball off then realised the unit I was shooting was in combat and so was I 
Shooting -
eh...?
Combat -
My Ironguts again made a mess of the slaves, My ogres knocked the Great rat down to 1 wound and took out several plague rats with my breath weapon I won by 1CR and the great rat died due to unstable and I ran down the plague rats. My MFC ruined the clan rats and ran them down taking no wounds in return. My chariot took 1 wound and dealt 3, killing 1 rat ogre.

Turn 4 - Skaven - He wanted to call it but I insisted on playing at least his turn.
Movement -
RUN AWAY
Magic -
What magic?
Shooting -
Everything is at the other side of the board or in combat ...
Combat -
He killed my iron blaster
sabre tusk and wizard again traded no wounds.
So I think the VP scores were 190 (skaven) to 1350 (Ogres)

In hind site I should have marched my Tyrant + Firebelly out of my IG unit and ran for the Rat ogres! but I thought the great rat would be tougher than he was.
I recon doing that I could have cleared the table by the end of turn 3/4
We'l get a rematch soon and he will take something really nasty since he will have both his cases with him

Also in the interest of sportsmanship I offered him some empty bases to use as stand ins, but he refused.

Sorry the battle was a little one sided, hopefully next time it will be on more even ground... although probably more in his favour

Chris

Nice victory! I had a game against Skaven last night with my WoC at 2.5k and tabled them on Turn 5 I didn't give away a single victory point either. Had to face something like 200 Clan Rats, DoomWheel, Abom and a bunch of other nasty stuff. You did well!

Combat - (we done this combat twice because of a rule dispute, I got a flank charge that should have nullified his leadership bonus from ranks, however he said because I didn't have an additional rank it didn't disrupt it, is this correct?)

Yes this is correct, you cannot disrupt a unit in the flank or rear unless you have a front rank and at least 1 extra rank. It's under the Disruption rules in the rulebook (Pg 52 on the mini BRB).

It states:
" A unit is disrupted if an enemy unit is attacking it in the flank or rear, and that unit has at least two or more ranks of five models. Smaller units are assumed to have insufficient mass to cause disruption. "

It goes on to say that if you start the CC disrupting the enemy but lose enough models that you no longer meet the requirements above then the enemy re-gains it's rank bonuses.

Hope this clears it up for you 

thank you very much, like is said - It wasn't as challenging as it could have been lol.
the clears it up We played it correctly then, second time round
Still didn't make a difference, I think I only had 1 more wound caused when they feared me

Do you think my assumption was correct? If I moved my other firebelly + tyrant out of the Ironguts to take on the ratogres with  my chariot I could have tabled him?
I mean 1000pts of my army only hit slaves...

Chris

Nice report, gratz on your win.  That poor skaven player did get much luck with that horned rat though 2 parries just made me laugh!  Thanks for posting