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I was just wondering how these attacks interact with the Etheral Creatures (only hit by Magic Weapons)?
Obviously winning the Combat by 2 works how about the other attacks?
Could someone please point me to a Faq or Rules that apply here.
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Reg0630 Jul 2008
Gorsh, that is a tricky one. I don't have the VC book on me, so I can't check the exact wording. Yell and Bawl is the only attack that could possibly work, as you don't actually attack with it, but the rest are clearly out the window. However, you get the Yell and Bawl result via the Attack statistic, and it is one of the giant's special attacks, so one can extrapolate that ethereal creatures are immune (again, I can't check the exact definition of ethereal). Still, if anyone tried to pull this you know you are in for an unpleasant game anyways- the intent is obvious that Yell and Bawl works.
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SpeedKills30 Jul 2008
IMO the only applicable rule, besides the rules for ethereals and slave giants, is BRB p. 32 roughly: The slave giant may not refuse to attack and thus has to roll on the corresponding table.
Yell and Brawl works obviously.
Besides "Pick up and ..." all other attacks of the slave giant allocate wounds. While you can beat ethereals in close combat you can't wound them by non-magical attacks. IMO these attacks will result in 0 wounds.
For "Pick up and ..." I would apply RAW and say it works. This is debatable, since the intention might be that a giant cannot pick up an ethereal. However, the rule for ethereals are so flawed that I consider RAW the only possibility to get through. The rest then is obvious: "Throw back .." and "Hurl" do not wound, the other options can be followed as if the model was not ethereal.
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Lexy30 Jul 2008
I'd say Yell and Brawl works. The rest I'd say don't, though I can go a long (maybe all the way) with Speedkills
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Bob the Butcher30 Jul 2008
Ye thanks for the replies thats the way we have been playing it.
We deemed that if you cant hurt a creature, then you can't pick it up and stuff it in the Bag etc...
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Fantasyfreak30 Jul 2008
I'd say that yell & bawl is the only thing that works
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Barney30 Jul 2008
I also thin only yell and bawl works here, you can´t pick up an ethereal creature... common sense dictates this(though you cannot rely on common sense in warhammer, can you )
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chugger30 Jul 2008
Ethereals are only protected from non-magical wounds, so as i see it (RAW) you can shove a ghost down your pants . Plenty of rules make no sense in this game.
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Bob the Butcher30 Jul 2008
Is there a Faq anywhere regarding this?
It could be a Magic Ghost holding bag.
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Fantasyfreak30 Jul 2008
It could be a Magic Ghost holding bag.
True, but how would the Giant put the eth in it?
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Barney30 Jul 2008
It could be a Magic Ghost holding bag.
True, but how would the Giant put the eth in it?
maybe he has Magic Ghost holding gloves?
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Bob the Butcher30 Jul 2008
Maybe the Giant sucks up the ghosts and blows them into the bag??
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