How to deal with Squig hoppers?

These things seem nasty especially vs. Ogres with Str5 attacks they destroy us on the charge.

I am tempted to put some Belchers back in my list to deal with these.

What do other people use to stop these crazy lil Gobbos?

It is very simple. Charge them.

They have 3d6 move so on average they go 9-10 inches. We have 12" charge range. They are ItP so there is no fleeing from our charge. If you win combat they have leadership of 5, so if you can isolate them from the General or a BSB then you break them easily.

Or use leadbelchers (which I take anyways, so they don't worry me).

yhetees do the trick for me as terrain in the way doesn't stop the charge and a lot of players will use terrain to bounce the squigs around with impunity.

Hmm, the terrain isn't that smart(I use a lot of wood), because they don't have to see you to get the charge.
Squighoppers just go the distance in inches and don't have to declare charges.

Why did nobody else yell: toothcracker or trollguts? that would work also I guess

Toothcracker would be nice, but they still are hitting on 3's, have 2 attack each and wound on 4's. Trollguts however would result in the hoppers bouncing right off your unit.

Well if they charge you with Trollguts on your unit you will hold if you haven't been cut down.

Thanks for the tips guys I hadn't faced them before and the fence in the way didn't help the ogres.

I meant that my opponents use terrain to hide their squigs before they bounce out to try a charge - the yhetees can usually hit them even when they are in the terrain as generally there is at least one of the bouncy-balls within 2" of an edge of the wood and, with yhetees, that doesn't have to be the front edge as they've moved up the flanks in other turns

Skullmantle and braingobbler! Those pesky squigs are often out of range of the general, and taking panic tests on 4 aint very nice Also maneaters with BoC ought to rip them apart, the same should charging yehetees.
Heck even Belchers or a toothcracker should be able to inflict a panic test on the buggers.

Skullmantle and braingobbler! Those pesky squigs are often out of range of the general, and taking panic tests on 4 aint very nice Also maneaters with BoC ought to rip them apart, the same should charging yehetees.
Heck even Belchers or a toothcracker should be able to inflict a panic test on the buggers.

Squighoppers are unfortunately immune to psychology.

Skullmantle and braingobbler! Those pesky squigs are often out of range of the general, and taking panic tests on 4 aint very nice Also maneaters with BoC ought to rip them apart, the same should charging yehetees.
Heck even Belchers or a toothcracker should be able to inflict a panic test on the buggers.

Squighoppers are unfortunately immune to psychology.

As an experienced O&G player this make my very shameful

Also the Squigs are skirmishers so -1 to hit with Belchers.

I applaud your group if you actually play with forests that are large enough to completely hide a unit of Hoppers from multiple sides.  I have a couple of forests this big in my collection.  Most of the time smaller forests will allow you to destroy them with Bone Cruncher/Bang Stick but if this is proving to be difficult or time consuming I recommend inventive use of Gnoblars.

Move your Gnolbars up so that if he charges out at you he has to first declare a charge on the Gnoblar unit.  Depending on a few factors he will either leave them in the forest (which will allow your army to get past the threat of the woods), or he will charge the Gnoblars and you can choose to hold of flee with them depending on whether or not he would reach an important unit on a redirect or if you think you worked out the pursuit move so that you can manage a charge on the next turn.  You can also flee with the unit he is trying to redirect into and this should leave the unit way out in the open.  I imagine your gnoblars will be moving up in front of your army anyway in order to pop fanatics so if they can do that and draw out fanatics your 40 points will seriously earn its worth back.

This topic came up a little while back... Basically, I would take two or three belchers, as they're bound to land a few hits, and IMHO they're expendable anyway! I also equip my tyrant with a BoH just incase they should meander a little too close to him... Then, just for extra shooty safety, I give one (of three) of my butcher's the Bangstick And, for slight overkill in the list, should you have a scraplauncher, a lucky template later, and squighoppers will be nothing more than a distant memory

JJ

well, as a heavy squig hoppers user I can only give two advice:

1. SHOOT THEM! Either magic(bonecruncher should work wonders, though this may be a bit risky, with only 18 inch range), or something that is accurate enough to compensate the -1 skirmishing penalty(maneaters or bruiser with BoH comes to my mind here)

2. CHARGE THEM! if the squigs don´t attacks first, they´re basically dead meat. T3, no armor, no ward. If you manage to lure them where you want and get the charge, the hoppers are nothing but a slight delay in your path.

And of course, bear in mind that 3d6 inch movement is really unreliable...sure, the squigs can whoop 18", but they can also jump only 3" far.(judging from my personal experience, they don´t move further than about 9-10 inches in average each turn. But then again, the dice gods really hate me very much...)

Barney's advice is quite sound. Bait and flee usually works for me. Remember that they always have to move 3d6, and can't stay in the woods and wait for you. This usually makes them exposed (either to a charge or magic/shooting).