Wienbach Ogres, Updated: 07/22/08

The rust effects look very nice, Saucey!

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Nicely done on the rust. It came out very natural and very subtle.

Pretty much finished my warband!

Warning! Terrible Pictures!

If you are going after an empire influence army why not start making empire style hats for your army.  From there you can progess into other types of empire clothing. A funny idea would be that your ogre tribe moved into an Empire village and the villagers don't want them there but are powerless to kick them out.  Modeling fleeing villagers or villager trying to give bribes to get the ogres to leave would be great.  The image that comes to my mind is an Ogre tyrant siting on the cow from the giant sprue eating a drumstick while one villager is begging him to leave and another is showing him the way out.  You could even go as far to use empire/mordheim villager models as "counts as" gnoblars.

Red and white stripes are used out the front of barber shops- you know, the barber polls. The reason for this is because many years ago, people believed that diseases could be treated by bleeding i.e. you go to the barber and they cut you, bleed you, pop a bunch of leeches on you that suck your blood, and hopefully, that will treat your bubonic plague. The red stripes stand for blood and the white stripes stand for bandages.
Anyway, just throwing ideas around.

More progress on the Warband for the Tournament. I apologise for the crummy pictures.

My converted Maneater, dressed as an Empire Swordsman, this was my first attempt at sculpting with greenstuff, let me know what you all think:







A group shot:


I will try to get some better pictures when possible. My goal is to have my army slightly tied into my brothers Empire army.

I think that the GS work is great! and im loving your models so far, they look fantastic

regards

Great first effort. There are some fingerprints (especially on the back straps), and the armor straps could be a little squarer, but over all a very nice job.

A few slightly better pictures of my Maneater:

Very nice idea to make a greatsword maneater! The greenstuffing looks good, although the straps on the back are not as nice as the rest of your work.

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Your bulls are really well painted. They really look like empire bulls without being over the top. I"m looking forward to seeing how the ironguts look when they are painted.

On Friday I got a chance to play a few practice games to get used to the rules for the Warband Tournament that I'm participating in on the 18th. I played against a few of the people I play Legends of the High Seas with.

First Battle: 500 Points, Dwarf Gunline
My List:
90 - Maneater: Cathayan Longsword, and Heavy Armor
260 - Bulls x6: Crusher, Bellower, and Standard Bearer
140 - Bulls x3: Ironists, Crusher, and Bellower

His List:
Not completely sure, but…
Hero of some description
4 Thunderers
4 Thunderers
4 Thunderers
7 Crossbows
1 Flame Cannon

The Game:
He deployed mostly on his left side in a line, one unit of Thunderers, then Crossbows (with Hero attached), Thunderers, and Thunderers. The cannon deployed in between the first Thunderers unit and the Crossbows. My deployment was simple, the Maneater joined the unit of 3 and deployed on my right side behind an easy hill, my unit of 6 deployed slightly to the left.

The first couple turns weren’t too eventful other than the Flame Cannon shooting over my head by a quarter of an inch or so. As I expected, I lost a few Ogres in the mad dash across the table. My unit of 6 took three casualties and eventually started to flee backwards.

My Maneater unit eventually got within range to charge his separated unit of Thunderers, demolished them and pursued into the Flame Cannon. They had already lost a member and after destroying the Flame Cannon were shot by the Crossbows as they turned to charge. The unit, down to the Maneater and Crusher, charged the Crossbows, got challenged by the hero, barely killing the gromril armored stunty. I managed to inflict enough wounds to make him take an Insane Courage test that made him flee into a unit of Thunderers, which managed to save (darn Ld 9).

My other unit had rallied at this point and was getting closer but was unable to help as the Maneater and Crusher destroyed one unit and luckily made the other one flee.

MVP:
Maneater! He nearly single handedly wiped out the Dwarfs!


Second Battle: 500 Points, SkavenMy List:
90 - Maneater: Cathayan Longsword, and Heavy Armor
260 - Bulls x6: Crusher, Bellower, and Standard Bearer
140 - Bulls x3: Ironists, Crusher, and Bellower

His List:
Again, as best as I remember…
2 Warplock Engineers
Warplock Cannon?
Rat Ogre
25 Slaverats
20 Clanrats: Shields
20 Clanrats: Shields

The Game:
A REALLY uneventful game, I didn’t make it into combat as the Engineers and the Cannon tore me to pieces. I tried to go through some difficult terrain and held off charging, as I feared I would be too slowed down to reach the Rat Ogre who had a unit of Slaverats waiting to counter charge.

I challenged him to another game with a different list at the suggestion of one of the store employees to try a different play style.

MVP:
No one had any opportunity.


Third Battle: 500 Points, Skaven
My List:
150 – Butcher:
140 – Bulls x3: Ironfists, Crusher
70 – Bulls x2
70 – Bulls x2
70 – Bulls x2

His List:
Again, as best as I remember…
2 Warplock Engineers
Warplock Cannon?
Rat Ogre
25 Slaverats
20 Clanrats: Shields
20 Clanrats: Shields

The Game:
Again, nothing really stood out in this game. It was my first time using Gut Magic, so that was interesting. I failed all attempts to Panic even Slaverats with Braingobbler, and didn’t do too much damage with Bonecruncher. It was nice to have some range, but I don’t think I care for how this list looks or plays, despite doing better.

I managed to make the Slaverats run off the table with the unit of 3, and the surviving unit of the three 2 Bull squads managed to kill the Rat Ogre and make one unit of Clanrats run off the table. Before being once again torn to pieces by Magic Missile and the Cannon.

MVP:
Butcher, fun to use, +1 Strength on the unit of 3 helped them flee the Slaverats easily, and also put a few wounds on a unit of Clanrats, so, was all and all, the most deadly of the group.

I took some pictures that came out way worse than I thought they would, but I just sculpted an Apron and a Hat onto my Butcher:



And the horde is growing!

A quick update (kind of)!

I got to play in a Warbands Tournament on Friday the 18th, and did, as I expected, terribly. There were only 3 opponents, my brother (Empire), Mark (Skaven), and a fellow named Daniel (Orcs/Goblins). My brother, Mark, and myself had only been playing for about a month, Daniel had been playing (from what he told my brother) close to 9 years or so.

My list was probably not the most competitive thing ever, but I was playing for fun as is the goal with my army, no MSU for me
150 - Butcher
          Skull Mantle
90 -  Maneater
          Heavy Armor
          Cathayan Longsword
155 - Bulls x3
          Full Command
105 - Bulls x3

My first game was against Mark's Skaven. I had played him twice before with less than stellar results and this time was no exception.

Hidden Objective: Annilihiation

In his 500 point army he had:
2 Warplock Engineers (I think that's what they're called)
1 Warp Lightning Cannon
2 Blocks of 20 Clanrats
1 Block of 25 Slaverats
1 Rat Ogre/Slaver

His general idea was to put the Engineers in the Clanrat units and use them in in conjunction with the Warp Lightning Cannon to blast me to smitherines, which he did.

He deployed one unit of Clanrats with an Engineer on my left flank, in front of my full command Bulls, and the rest of his forces were deployed in the center in front of my naked Bulls (and Maneater) along with my Butcher. The Slaverats held the entire game, along with the Rat Ogre, which effectively tied up the bulls in front of the Warplightning cannon (which didn't run from Braingobbler  ) which spelled my demise. I whittled the Clanrats down but was unsuccesful in killing them off. The Rat Ogre killed the Butcher, and the Clanrats on the left all but destroyed my bulls on the left and wiped them out in combat.

I faired better than I had the last few times I played him, but was once again, unsuccesful. Loss 1 down.


My next opponent was my Brother's Empire. I had beaten him in a practice game before the tournament, but didn't do so well this time.

Hidden Objective: Annilihiation

His list is:
4 Knights
10 Archers
15 Swordsmen (I believe) with a detachment of 6 Handgunners
10 Swordsmen
Great Cannon

We pretty much deployed on my right side, with the cannon in the far left, which he informed me later, was to provide crossfire if I broke through his lines.
I lost a few Ogres to shooting especially once I charged the Handgunners (probably not too smart), the full command unit fled and wasn't able to rally in time. The naked Bulls with the Maneater managed to destroy the Archers and a large majority of the Swordsmen, while the Butcher killed 3 of 4 Knights (2 with Bonecruncher, 1 in combat).

It was nice playing my brother as we're probably close tactical knowledge wise. Loss 2 complete!


The final game was against Daniel's Orcs/Goblins. This was the battle that I pretty much knew I wasn't going to win. While he was a very nice opponent, I also kind of felt he was out of place skill wise, he had alerady massacred my brother, and only tied against Mark (which, I partly attribute to his list).

Hidden Objective: Annihilation

His list was:
2 Shamans
10 Night Goblin Archers
10 Night Goblin Archers
6 or so Feral Ork Boar Boys
5 or so Feral Orks
Bolt Thrower

I faired a little better than I thought I would in this one, but still got massacred I believe. This was another fairly right heavy deployment for both of us, and I managed to scare a unit of Archers off the table and charged the Feral Orks behind them, and beat them. One of the Shamans blew himself up, and the other ran around for the large majority of the game. The Boars destryoed one unit of Ogres, turned around and wiped out the Butcher with the help of the Archers, and that was pretty much it. I came close to destroying 50% of his Unit Strength but didn't quite have enough.

All in all a less than stellar set of games, but I'm learning slowly and hope to have 1000 Points painted soon. I've made up my mind, I will not be playing MSU style. Everyone at the store thinks it is "the only way" to play Ogres. But I'm not to concerned about winning, so this isn't a big deal.

My goal so far is to have:

1 Turquoise Pants Tyrant/Bruiser (Maneater at the moment)
2 Green Pants Butchers
6 Blue Pants Bulls, Full Command
6 Red Pants Bulls, Full Command
6 Ironguts (color yet to be determined), Full Command
3 Black Pants Leadbelchers, Possible Command
25 Gnoblars (not sure what to do with these yet)

I need to build another Butcher, 2 Leadbeltchers, and finish another Bull for the Red Pants, and another Irongut.

That puts me at approximately 1500 (using a Bruiser) before getting into upgrades (other than the command on the Bulls/Ironguts).

Any ideas, comments, concerns, etc. would be much appreciated, also, if anyone has some quick, non-MSU style tactics, please let me know either here or via PM.