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On the WPS site there was talk of a Canadian chap using 3 hunters, if he has any feed back let me know. Like to swap notes. Pretty close to what I've been running LOL. Here's the post.
(Ontario Canada)Time Of Madness Saw a fellow playing this 2000pt ogre list down at my local club and thought it was pretty brilliant. Here's what the list looked like,
CHARACTERS
Tyrant - heavy armour, Ironfist and luck gnoblar - Sword of Striking (+1 to hit) - Wydrstone necklace - Daemon Killer scars (terror) - Beastkiller Hunter - 2 Sabretusks - Longstrider - Biting Blade Hunter - 2 Sabretusks - Longstrider - Sword of Might
Hunter - 2 Sabretusks - Longstrider - Sword of Battle
CORE
5 Ironguts - Full command with lookout gnoblar - Warbanner *Tyrant here*
3 Ironguts
3 Ogre Bulls - Bellower
3 Ogre Bulls - Bellower
8 Trappers
8 Trappers
8 Trappers
RARE
Gorger
Gorger
TOTAL POINTS = 1996pts
All be it he was playing against a fairly light magic opponent (2 level 2's I believe) he was able to send his sabretusks out and kill the mages relatively quicky. The trappers caused some march blocking problems and even assisted the gorgers in removing a couple of war machines.
I was very impressed with the 3 hunters and the ability to cause problems for his opponent. I realize this list wouldn't work against some of the stronger tourney type lists, but I felt it was one of the more powerful ogre lists I have seen around.
Opinions on taking 3 hunters? Time of Madness
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Bob the Butcher12 May 2008
I'm not so sure about his Tyrant build but the rest looks good.
If you have a Magic Weapon your have to use it so Iron fist won't be useful on the Tyrant. Also beast killer doesn't work with Magic Weapons.
Tyrant build alternative Tenderiser, HA, BOH, Wyrdstone Necklace with (Gut Maw or greedy Fist or Long strider) & Luck Gnoblar.
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nasher12 May 2008
Yeah I saw that too Bob, good eye there, the greedy fist is a bomb vs vamp lords, nuked a 3rd level vampire who was all of a sudden 0 level haha. I think I'll have to wait for awhile for a response from Canada as they are mostly asleep, as of 11pm Aussi time.
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hardyworld12 May 2008
If you have a Magic Weapon your have to use it so Iron fist won't be useful on the Tyrant. Also beast killer doesn't work with Magic Weapons.
Ironfist may not give you the parry bonus due to having the magic weapon, but it still acts as a shield in close combat. Obviously useful.
Beastkiller may not give the extra wounds to big beasts due to having the magic weapon, but it still gives the character Immune to Psychology. Obviously useful when run alone.
So I disagree with Bob....these add-ons CAN be useful in this scenario.
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Bob the Butcher13 May 2008
Ye with Beast Killer I was referring to the doubling of wounds, the Immune to Psychology is still useful. However with Demon Scars he is already Terror causing?? so why have both on the one Tyrant.
As far as the Iron Fist is concerned its 12pts to get a +1 AS whereas if you use Greedy Fist 20pts you get the +1 and also eat opponents Magic Weapons or Mage levels. I guess its personal preference on this one.
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Wildcard13 May 2008
Yeah I saw that too Bob, good eye there, the greedy fist is a bomb vs vamp lords, nuked a 3rd level vampire who was all of a sudden 0 level haha.
hit a vampire lord with a tenderizer and he tends to die - thereby losing all magic levels anyway. greedy fist is very rarely necessary as little gets to live once a tyrant starts swinging.
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Aza13 May 2008
Yeah I saw that too Bob, good eye there, the greedy fist is a bomb vs vamp lords, nuked a 3rd level vampire who was all of a sudden 0 level haha.
hit a vampire lord with a tenderizer and he tends to die - thereby losing all magic levels anyway. greedy fist is very rarely necessary as little gets to live once a tyrant starts swinging.
Unless you have cursed die as I often do. Managed to "almost" loose against a Giantslayer which has no armor saves at all and only 3 wounds. Had 1 wound left after the encounter with the little bugger
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Bob the Butcher13 May 2008
Ye I agree Wildcard the Tenderiser makes a mess, but if fighting Dwarf Lords, Lizard Piranha Blades on Carnosaurs, Empire Rune swords, etc...getting rid of their Magic Weapon could be useful.
Also the +1 Armour on the Tyrant very handy vs. pesky Wood Elf Archers.
I do like the hunter builds on the original topic list however.
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nasher13 May 2008
My Tyrant Samurai sword Brace pistols Beast Killer Wyrd Stone Neclace Greyback Pelt Greedy Fist Gnoblar reroll.
Well the Tenderizer comes in handy, but you lose the two wounds for one caused on large target from beastkiller ability when using it. Greedy fist saved me from a frostblade only last weekend vamp needed 5+ to hit w rerolls and rerolls to wound, saved on the ward and POP went the magic weapon. Handy. Anyway thats my theory.
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Wildcard13 May 2008
handy - but tenderizer works on vamps where the beastkiller doesn't. Having longstrider too (my usual build) means that you get charges on things more often too.
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