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Because LK. (Maths Time, Chaos+Dark Elves=The Cult of Slaanesh) Also they're cool, strong and well they're wicked! Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy11 Jan 2008
Yep scroll for the sorceress and a musician for the marauders. For the marauders this mean you have a relative save way to flee and rally. That would make something less then 35 points.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith11 Jan 2008
Cool, but, I thought you could only have one, arcane item on each character? But any way the list as it stands: 1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Steed of Slaanesh Dispel Scroll
10 DE Warriors Repeater Crossbows Mark of Slannesh
10 Marauders Great Weapons Musician
1 Spawn of Chaos
There you are the list form all of the updates.
Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy11 Jan 2008
Yes you can have only one arcane item on a ( just mages) character, but... This wouldn't be warhammer if there were no exceptions and dispell scrolls and powerstones are allowed multiple times and can be chosen next to other arcane items. And still, you now have one arcane item, so even if you couldn't it's not a problem.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith11 Jan 2008
Oh yeah. Must of miscounted, or something like that. Should have a 1000 point list up sooner this evening. Thnaks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Malekith11 Jan 2008
1000 Pt List here it is: 1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Steed of Slaanesh Darkstar Cloak = 210 Pts
1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Steed of Slaanesh Dispel Scroll = 215 Pts
10 DE Warriors Repeater Crossbows =110 Pts
10 Marauders of Chaos Great Weapons Light Armour Full Command = 105 Pts
8 Mounted Daemonettes of Slaanesh Mark of Slaanesh = 260 Pts
And that leaves me with 100 Pts left to slash on, but what? Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy11 Jan 2008
Malekith, 2 questions:
1: could you put the number of models in a unit and the total points of the unit ( including magic items and stuff ) in it? It makes it easier to give some comments.
What are you going to do with the sorceresses?
At this moment I'd say 5 dark riders with a musician.(97 points)
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith11 Jan 2008
Right must improve and the sorceresses I'm putting them in the unit of Mounted Daemonettes Just edited my last list, any better? Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Corai11 Jan 2008
unless the cult rules specify otherwise, your sorcerous cannot join the daemonette unit as only Daemonic characters can join daemonic units (IIRC)
thanks Corai
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Malekith11 Jan 2008
unless the cult rules specify otherwise, your sorcerous cannot join the daemonette unit as only Daemonic characters can join daemonic units (IIRC)
thanks Corai
Oh no, I hate to say it but you're right looks like it's back to the drawing board for me (more like tomorrow, after some rest and some more readings of the rules!!) Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy12 Jan 2008
Yes much better ( your army list). Corai is right about the rules, the sorceress can only join dark elves units.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith12 Jan 2008
Right I hope this list is any better (possibly not ): 1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Steed of Slaanesh = 210
1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Steed of Slaanesh Dispel Scroll = 215
10 DE Warriors Repeater Crossbows = 110
10 Marauders of Chaos Great Weapons Light Armour Full Command = 105
5 Mounted Daemonettes of Slaanesh Mark of Slaanesh = 170
5 Cold One Knights Full Command = 190
And that equals to 1000 Pts dead on!!! Right then what do you think. Thanks, Makekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy12 Jan 2008
you don't have to pay the slaanesh markfor mounted daemonettes ( actually in the cult list all chaos units are already marked) so they cost 150. I still wonder where yo are going to put your sorceresses. I'm not fond of cold one knights, but that might be because I seem to fail stupidity checks all the time. A unit of 6 mounted daemonettes are even better, and do the same and more.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith12 Jan 2008
Well Lexy, If you put a sample list or something like that then I can work from there. Also, I don't know where to put the sorceresses either, just have to find out, after a good look at all of the other units I can have in the cult. Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy12 Jan 2008
Ooh, now you put me in a tight spot
Okay: General Sorceress with Level 2, mark of slaanesh and dispell scroll 175 Gets in the unit of devotees ( extra protection because of the soporific musk)
sorceress with level 2, mark of slaanesh and wand of Kharaidon 190 Gets in devotees or xbowmenand has a nice boundspell
10 Devoted of slaanesh with champion and give the champion speed of slaanesh 142 You need one unit of them in your army ( is required)
10 crossbowmen with shield and mark of slaanesh 140 Shield is for a 4+ armour save in combat and the mark is so they don't run
6 mounted daemonettes 180 Fast cavalry with the power to flank units and break them relative easily
5 dark riders with musician 97 To bait and flee 1 fiend of slaanesh 75 To hold up a hard unit, so you can dal with the rest first.
How you like that?
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith12 Jan 2008
I love that Lexy, excellently done, can't wait to use this list against someone, ummm..........Wildcard? Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Ghworg12 Jan 2008
I have to say, I have great reservations about these lists. They seem to me to a) put far too much trust in magic doing well (when it is one of the most unpredictable things in Warhammer) and b) far too vulnerable to any army with even a modicum of shooting (you have so few troops many of which do not have any protection whatsoever). Plus the small size of this army means that it can be easily steamrollered by an army that makes use of many CR blocks. Finally, so many of the units have the Mark of Slaanesh, meaning that they cannot flee from charges and as such cannot avoid unfavourable combats.
I cannot give exact advice, however, here are some general changes I think should be implemented: 1) Only use one Sorceress. Though I agree CoS is supposed to be magic heavy, 2 Sorceresses is far too great a points drain in 1,000pts. I would instead use 1 lvl 2 Sorceress with the Darkstar Cloak, a Dispel Scroll and a Mark of Slaanesh. Put her in with the Devotees.
2) Increase the size of the devoted unit. This unit is bound to take some casualties, and you want to maintain their numbers (and preferably a +1 rank bonus) as much as possible. I would advocate raising their numbers to 14 and fill the rank space with the Sorceress.
3) Get a CR block. This is needed for the holding up of enemy units while Mounted Daemonettes flank them. I would suggest the cheapest option possible: either 20 Marauders equipped with light armour, shields & FC or 20 DE Warriors with the same.
4) Remove the mark of slaanesh and shields from the rxb elves. These are points that would be far better spent on making your proper combat troops better. Plus the Mark of Slaanesh forces the rxb elves to accept charges when they would be far better off avoiding combat.
hope this helps,
Ghworg
2 Pet Gnoblars! I dub them Itchy and Scratchy, for reasons that are too private to divulge.
Lexy12 Jan 2008
Actually, because Malekith used two sorceresses, I put two in the list. That's why I put the wand in it. 5 dice and a Boundspell 5 is heavy on 1000 points. the mounted daemonettes can pack a punch against most units even alone in the flank or in the front with maximum 1 axtra rank. If I'd change something I'd drop the dark riders and up the devotees.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith13 Jan 2008
Confused!!! Right I'll go with, drop the Dark Riders and go for a 14 Devoted Unit also drop the shields on the Warriors so that means list stands like this: 1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Dispel Scroll = 175
1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Wand of Kharaidon = 190
14 Devoted of Slaanesh Mistress Speed of Slaanesh = 190
10 DE Warriors Repeater Crossbows Mark of Slaanesh = 130
6 Mounted Daemonettes of Slaanesh = 180
1 Spawn of Chaos Fiend of Slaanesh = 75
And at that I've got 60 points left spend, I'll go with a ... I, don't know what to go with, this is where I'm stuck! Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy13 Jan 2008
That's what you get when asking advise for dark elves lists: 10 people react with 20 different options.
I'd say keep the shields on the xbowmen, then you still have a 5+ save against shooting and 4+ in combat use the rest of the points on devotees ( but keep them 7 wide) try that list and then see what to change, because in theory we can make 100 lists.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith13 Jan 2008
Right then, with the few changes the list stands like this: 1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Dispel Scroll = 175
1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Wand of Kharaidon = 190
18 Devoted of Slaanesh Mistress Speed of Slaanesh = 238
10 DE Warriors Repeater Crossbows Mark of Slaanesh Shields = 140
6 Mounted Daemonettes of Slaanesh = 180
1 Spawn of Chaos Fiend of Slaanesh = 75
So, that is the list with the minor updates, and well all I can say I don't like the number of the Devotees, 18, I think that's a bit to much. Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy13 Jan 2008
you'll lose some in the process and 6 is the number of slaanesh if I remember correctly.
Just try it, dark elves (and maybe CoS) are armies you have to play and not debate about.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith13 Jan 2008
True, very true. Oh well it'll be fun I mean making all of those Devotees, I'm in for a hetic army when I get started!! Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Malekith13 Jan 2008
Just been working on my 1500 Pt List and well I'm not impressed so far but I'll show you lot any way: 1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Wand of Kharaidon Dispel Scroll = 215
1 DE Noble Chaos Armour Dark Pegasus Draich of Dark Power = 185
10 Devoted of Slaanesh Full Command Speed of Slaanesh = 160
10 DE Warriors Repeater Crossbows Mark of Slaanesh Shields = 140
10 Daemonettes of Slaanesh = 150
6 Mounted Daemonettes of Slaanesh = 180
And that is all so far, but I'm not impressed and I've still got 470 Pts left to go, any suggestions? Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy13 Jan 2008
Yes your sorceress is illegal ( has about 65 on magic items)
Th big question is of course: how are you going to use the army?
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith28 Jan 2008
Ok lists as it stands:
1 Druchii Anointed Lvl2 Upgrade Steed of Slaanesh Mount Quckening Blood Allure of Slaanesh Great Weapon = 411
1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Dispel Scroll Mark of Slaanesh = 175
1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Dispel Scroll Mark of Slaanesh = 175
1 DE Noble Chaos Armour Cold One Mount Draich of Dark Power Mark of Slaanesh = 176
14 Devoted of Slaanesh Full Command Speed of Slaanesh = 208
14 DE Warriors Repeater Crossbows Shields = 168
11 DE Warriors Full Command Shields = 113
5 Cold One Knights Full Command Mark of Slaanesh = 210
7 Mounted Daemonettes of Slaanesh = 210
1 Spawn of Chaos Fiend of Slaanesh = 75
1 Spawn of Chaos Fiend of Slaanesh = 75
Ok couldn't fit in the DR but If you think you can get them in then please tell me! Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Malekith03 Feb 2008
Whoops, just looked thorough this and I haven't got a leagal 500 Point List so I quickly whiped up this one.
1 Sorceress Lvl2 Upgrade Mark of Slaanesh Tome of Furion = 165
14 Devoted of Slaanesh Mistress Speed of Slaanesh = 190
15 DE Warriors Shields Full Command = 145
Well that is 500 Pts dead on, what do you think. Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Lexy03 Feb 2008
You want honesty or niceness?
This is not a good list. change the warriors for a rxb warriors, still not that good, but better. don't use a single Level 2 sorceress. it's one spell per turn you get through, if you're lucky.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol
Ogre achievements: 41/101
Malekith03 Feb 2008
Waaah you made me upset, well actually I do agree I mean I did quickly whip it up. New List up later tonight, possibly. Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Malekith07 Feb 2008
I'm sad to say this but I'll lock this topic as a choice of I won't start this army unless it's not mentioned in the next DE book, mods if it is allright for you, if I can reopen this topic if in the new DE book the CoS are mentioned then I can get on with this army. Topic will be locked at 2000, well say what you like. Thanks, Malekith
Oh, forgot to add there will be something good out of this if the CoS aren't mentioned in the next DE book, I'll most proberly start Orges.
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Malekith07 Feb 2008
Ok just over an hour to go and yet no response. Do you guys like me? Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Reg0607 Feb 2008
Go ahead and lock it, it's your gnoblog and you are free to do with it what you will. If you can't lock it (I haven't gnoblogged and I don't know what functions you have) I'll do it for you, no problem.
Quote from: Ganymede on Mar 26, 2009, 11:17:45 AM
If by RAW, you mean "Reg06's Audacious Whims", then you'd be right.
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Malekith07 Feb 2008
Ok I've planned to lock it sooner than 2000, it'll be locked 1930, so till then, bye. Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Malekith07 Feb 2008
Well I can say bye to this Gnoblog for ever, or until the new DE book explains the Cut of Slaanesh in it. Well till then bye to the Cult of Slaanesh. Thanks, Malekith
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
Malekith19 Mar 2009
Hey guys the Cult of Slaanesh is back but with a twist, I won't be including my Dark Elves in this army. Only a pure slaanesh Daemon army, I should be starting in the following months.
= Rakarth The One Gnoblar Army! (And his helpers)
Last Dark Elf Result: 1000 pts vs Vampire Counts - Draw.
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