03 Dec 2007
The Forum Primer.
As the Ogre Stronghold continues to grow, it has increasingly become a haven for players of all the warhammer races and indeed many players of other game systems to show their work, gain tips and tricks and enjoy each others company.
As a part of the moderator team, I must say that we generally have a pretty easy job here. The stronghold is a friendly, relaxed and co-operative forum one where almost every post counts and we all pull together to make this great place even greater.
Its that almost every post bit that were addressing with this thread.
As we pick up new members, we also attract those new players and hobbyists who have never used a forum before and in some cases, even with our normal helpfulness, these people tend to get left out a bit. Because they dont understand what we should all be doing here, and how we should be doing it, they make mistakes.
These are totally understandable and forgivable mistakes but mistakes that can, over time, really start adding up and annoying folk.
So with that in mind here is a Forum Primer for using the stronghold, a quiet word from the moderator team, which we all might find useful to read and remember from now on.
How to Make Yourself Understood
Language is important. Youll not find any spelling or grammar fiends here, but to be able to communicate your ideas, ask for help and make useful suggestions you need to follow a few simple rules.
The language of the stronghold is English you need a working knowledge of it in order to make progress here.
To all members who dont have English as a first language can I say congratulations! Im usually very impressed with you ability to communicate and your English skills are generally superior to my skills in any other language. Member of the stronghold will generally be tolerant of any mistakes you make if you explain yourself and your situation.
Spelling and Grammar need to be of a reasonable quality
Punctuation exists for a good reason to turn drivel into meaningful sentences! You need to use punctuation in all your posts. YOU might know what you mean but thats no guarantee that WE will. On a forum you only have your words to describe you, and if we cant read them, youre in trouble!
The comma, the full stop and the space are required from time to time. Remember, if your English teacher at school wouldnt like your writing (can some of you remember back that far?) then neither will we! No one is going to yell at you for making obscure grammatical errors, but you need to read your writing to yourself, if you find it hard to follow, then so will others.
As for spelling, dont worry too much over spelling mistakes, but DO read through your posts BEFORE posting them if you can fix a mistake or too then so much the better.
Keep everything easy to read
At the stronghold we have members from all over the planet, or all ages and experiences and in order to all get the best from each other, we have to keep things simple for each other.
DONT use net speak, leet speak, or Txt spk here at the stronghold just simple English will do.
We have enough abbreviations in the games we play already without adding more stuff in!
Now that you know how to make yourself understood, lets look at some rules of behaviour
How to Make Friends and Influence People
In order to help people here at the stronghold, or to gain help from them, we all need to be courteous and reasonable. It also helps if you can show that you are trying to help yourself at the same time.
Dont be Lazy
When you post asking for help dont ask for everything to be given to you on a platter. A forum is a place for discussion and advice. If you can show a direction you are going in, and how much work you have done, youll get more help and a better quality help too!
What goes where??
If you are not sure where a thread should be posted, read the guidelines for each board given in the index. If youre still not sure, PM a moderator or another friendly member and ask them BEFORE posting it up. Keeping things in the proper places makes it more likely youll receive responses to your posts.
Threadomancy is wrong!
Threadomancy is the act of posting in a thread that has been inactive for a long time, pushing it back to the top of the boards. At the stronghold, we get through a lot of threads in some boards, so looking at what page something is on isnt always the best idea. As a rule, please check the date of the last post made before you decide to add anything. If its more than 2 months old Leave It Alone!! Start a new thread instead if you have something on the topic you would like to discuss.
This doesnt apply to Gnoblogs however. Gnoblogs are personal journals of members projects and, as such, a lot of time may elapse and we might move on to other things before coming back to a long-dead project. (Corai and myself are especially good at this!).
Double posting is bad. Double posting is bad
Sometimes everyone has a brain fart. Youve just posted and then remember you need to add something else in. Please dont post another message just edit your last one to include your new thoughts!
Even if its been a couple of days, dont double post.
Once again, Gnoblogs are an exception to this as they more the repository for all the thoughts of the owner feel free to update your own gnoblog even if you havent received any feedback lately but read the stuff below first!
one-line posts
Posting one line
At a time
To build up your post count
Is annoying
Unless you have a valid contribution to make to a thread, something that will advance the debate, answer a question or provide a detailed insight dont bother posting it until you have had more time to think things through. The kind of posts that say things like I think your should use (insert name here) and then dont follow it up with a why, a because or a how to really waste your time and the time of anyone reading it.
Flaming
At the stronghold we rarely have a problem with heated arguments we generally have enough respect for each other to keep things nice and sensible. Sometimes however, passions get raised, often because someone has said something in such a way that it triggers reactions from others.
If this happens to you, dont start retaliating and never make things personal this is the internet and, barring some of us who know each other in real life, were all just a bunch of 0s and 1s to each other.
Everything in Moderation
The moderators of the forum are a pretty active bunch as Im sure youve noticed. Check the post counts, and time spent online statistics from time to time and see for yourself however, we cant be everywhere at once and, from time to time, we might miss something that needs sorting out a thread in the wrong place, an infringement of one of the above guidelines, etc.
If you spot something like this, your first action should be to alert one of the mods with a PM not to try and deal with it yourself. Although most people will take your well-meaning and thoughtful action in the spirit you intended it, not all will and if someone is going to take flack it should be us, not you, which bears the brunt.
Let us know, and well sort it out.
And thats about it for now if anyone can think of something we should add let the Mod team know and well get straight on it.
Happy posting to all!!
As the Ogre Stronghold continues to grow, it has increasingly become a haven for players of all the warhammer races and indeed many players of other game systems to show their work, gain tips and tricks and enjoy each others company.
As a part of the moderator team, I must say that we generally have a pretty easy job here. The stronghold is a friendly, relaxed and co-operative forum one where almost every post counts and we all pull together to make this great place even greater.
Its that almost every post bit that were addressing with this thread.
As we pick up new members, we also attract those new players and hobbyists who have never used a forum before and in some cases, even with our normal helpfulness, these people tend to get left out a bit. Because they dont understand what we should all be doing here, and how we should be doing it, they make mistakes.
These are totally understandable and forgivable mistakes but mistakes that can, over time, really start adding up and annoying folk.
So with that in mind here is a Forum Primer for using the stronghold, a quiet word from the moderator team, which we all might find useful to read and remember from now on.
How to Make Yourself Understood
Language is important. Youll not find any spelling or grammar fiends here, but to be able to communicate your ideas, ask for help and make useful suggestions you need to follow a few simple rules.
The language of the stronghold is English you need a working knowledge of it in order to make progress here.
To all members who dont have English as a first language can I say congratulations! Im usually very impressed with you ability to communicate and your English skills are generally superior to my skills in any other language. Member of the stronghold will generally be tolerant of any mistakes you make if you explain yourself and your situation.
Spelling and Grammar need to be of a reasonable quality
Punctuation exists for a good reason to turn drivel into meaningful sentences! You need to use punctuation in all your posts. YOU might know what you mean but thats no guarantee that WE will. On a forum you only have your words to describe you, and if we cant read them, youre in trouble!
The comma, the full stop and the space are required from time to time. Remember, if your English teacher at school wouldnt like your writing (can some of you remember back that far?) then neither will we! No one is going to yell at you for making obscure grammatical errors, but you need to read your writing to yourself, if you find it hard to follow, then so will others.
As for spelling, dont worry too much over spelling mistakes, but DO read through your posts BEFORE posting them if you can fix a mistake or too then so much the better.
Keep everything easy to read
At the stronghold we have members from all over the planet, or all ages and experiences and in order to all get the best from each other, we have to keep things simple for each other.
DONT use net speak, leet speak, or Txt spk here at the stronghold just simple English will do.
We have enough abbreviations in the games we play already without adding more stuff in!
Now that you know how to make yourself understood, lets look at some rules of behaviour
How to Make Friends and Influence People
In order to help people here at the stronghold, or to gain help from them, we all need to be courteous and reasonable. It also helps if you can show that you are trying to help yourself at the same time.
Dont be Lazy
When you post asking for help dont ask for everything to be given to you on a platter. A forum is a place for discussion and advice. If you can show a direction you are going in, and how much work you have done, youll get more help and a better quality help too!
What goes where??
If you are not sure where a thread should be posted, read the guidelines for each board given in the index. If youre still not sure, PM a moderator or another friendly member and ask them BEFORE posting it up. Keeping things in the proper places makes it more likely youll receive responses to your posts.
Threadomancy is wrong!
Threadomancy is the act of posting in a thread that has been inactive for a long time, pushing it back to the top of the boards. At the stronghold, we get through a lot of threads in some boards, so looking at what page something is on isnt always the best idea. As a rule, please check the date of the last post made before you decide to add anything. If its more than 2 months old Leave It Alone!! Start a new thread instead if you have something on the topic you would like to discuss.
This doesnt apply to Gnoblogs however. Gnoblogs are personal journals of members projects and, as such, a lot of time may elapse and we might move on to other things before coming back to a long-dead project. (Corai and myself are especially good at this!).
Double posting is bad. Double posting is bad
Sometimes everyone has a brain fart. Youve just posted and then remember you need to add something else in. Please dont post another message just edit your last one to include your new thoughts!
Even if its been a couple of days, dont double post.
Once again, Gnoblogs are an exception to this as they more the repository for all the thoughts of the owner feel free to update your own gnoblog even if you havent received any feedback lately but read the stuff below first!
one-line posts
Posting one line
At a time
To build up your post count
Is annoying
Unless you have a valid contribution to make to a thread, something that will advance the debate, answer a question or provide a detailed insight dont bother posting it until you have had more time to think things through. The kind of posts that say things like I think your should use (insert name here) and then dont follow it up with a why, a because or a how to really waste your time and the time of anyone reading it.
Flaming
At the stronghold we rarely have a problem with heated arguments we generally have enough respect for each other to keep things nice and sensible. Sometimes however, passions get raised, often because someone has said something in such a way that it triggers reactions from others.
If this happens to you, dont start retaliating and never make things personal this is the internet and, barring some of us who know each other in real life, were all just a bunch of 0s and 1s to each other.
Everything in Moderation
The moderators of the forum are a pretty active bunch as Im sure youve noticed. Check the post counts, and time spent online statistics from time to time and see for yourself however, we cant be everywhere at once and, from time to time, we might miss something that needs sorting out a thread in the wrong place, an infringement of one of the above guidelines, etc.
If you spot something like this, your first action should be to alert one of the mods with a PM not to try and deal with it yourself. Although most people will take your well-meaning and thoughtful action in the spirit you intended it, not all will and if someone is going to take flack it should be us, not you, which bears the brunt.
Let us know, and well sort it out.
And thats about it for now if anyone can think of something we should add let the Mod team know and well get straight on it.
Happy posting to all!!
ogre kingdoms (152 played) 132 W, 12 L, 8 D
tomb kings (23 played) 17 W, 4 L, 2 D
bretonnians (19 played) 14 W, 3 L, 2 D
daemons (3 played) 3 W, 0 L 0 D
Forum Primer: http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=7241.
tomb kings (23 played) 17 W, 4 L, 2 D
bretonnians (19 played) 14 W, 3 L, 2 D
daemons (3 played) 3 W, 0 L 0 D
Forum Primer: http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=7241.