Rules for Gnoblar Hero and Gnoblar cavalry

Hi all!

My friends and I are doing an update on all 8th edition books (we haven't got much faith in upcoming 9th). I've written some changes for the ogre book, including 1 new hero (gnoblar), 2 new units ( gnoblarcavalry and an ogre chariot with irongut on top):

Let me hear what you think about them (balance wise and flavour wise):

Hero:
Gnoblar Chieftain               35 points      

M:4 WS:4  BS: 4  S:3  T:3  W:2  I:4 A:3  Ld:6                               

Equipment: HW + throwing weapons                  
Light armor: +2 points      Mount on fleabag (gnoblar mount):   15 points         
Shield: +2 points                  
Spear: +2 points                  
Expert trapper: +5 points     When joining a unit of gnoblar trappers, dangerous terrain tests caused by traps are failed on 1 and 2, instead of just 1's

Magic items: 25 points                  
                     
Special rules:                  
Beneath Contempt (also, can only join gnoblar units)                  

Core   
Gnoblar Fleabag Riders    12 points per model         
Unit size: 10+ or 5+                     

Fleabag M:8 WS:3 BS: -  S:3  T:3 W:1 I:3 A:1 Ld:4                                       
Gnoblar Rider M: 4 WS:3  BS: 3  S:2  T:3   W: 1  I:3  A:1  Ld:5               
                        
Equipment: Spears + Shield                     
Flea pouch slings: +1 points:    range 8"   (Throwing weapon: Uses BS, causes no wounds. If one or more flea bags hits a target, all fleabags (mounts only) gain +1 attack toward that unit). The idea is, that the fleabag mounts go crazy, when they see all those fleas on the enemy unit, giving them extra attacks against that unit.   Because fleas are their mortal enemies          
Light Armour: +1 points
                  
Special rules:    Beneath contempt               

Models for fleabag rider: http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/goblins/product/goblin-fleabag-riders-regiment-10-figures.html      



Let me hear, what you think! And please write ideas if you got any!

Yeah I like it.
Maybe make short bows an upgrade for gnoblars, like goblins?

I thought of that (you can even buy the same figures with bows)

But I want to keep the flavour unique and not make them a goblin wolf rider copy

Perhaps you could allow them to use the slings as normal slings as well

Have you considered tying what your doing in with the ''official'' unofficial gnoblar list that they released in WD 310?

The heroes are Honchos (hero) and Head Honcho (Lord) - They had Rhinox as a mount option (The baby rhinox from the ironblaster)

Also they had Pigback riders that rode into battle ontop of another gnoblar but I always envisaged Pig knights would be better - riding in on actual pigs.

If you want, I can send over  a PDF of the rules if you have never seen them.

I never heard of that gnoblar list. So a PDF with the rules would be most welcome!

Just a PM?

I would also love to see the PDF, it seems interesting.

I like it, though I have to say for a mere 5 point upgrade (40 points total), you make any unit that charges you statistically likely to take a wound on 1/3 of all its models... that's a huge thing, maybe under-costed

Perhaps you are right

Perhaps i should cost a bit more.

They look like fun rules, I guess I need to make a few more of these guys.

Sounds like a good idea!

The Gnoblar Army list is a great place to start. It is fairly well "balanced" for 8th aside from being all Gnoblars of course. There were also a few new Gnoblar only magic items created for our Gnoblar Arena of Death awhile back that might prove interesting/useful.