First tournament coming up, same as SmellyOgreMan! 2400 Points

So I'm going to the same tournement as SmellyOgreMan, who posted a few days ago.

Pretty good comp system for ogres. No butcher tax for the magic lore, and a choice between a 2nd Ironblaster/Crown of command. I'm going for the Ironblaster!

The only thing I really don't like, is that the list I'm thinking of will start broken. Its a Win/Draw/Loss system of 20/10/1 points, but there are additional points up for grabs, including 2 for being unbroken, and 2 for breaking your enemy. As such, I have a couple ideas so far, which I'd love a bit of critique on.

The main idea is below. I'm betting on lots of chaos, and lots of elves, so the two blocks of Leadbelchers will be very useful for stopping the redirectors/wild riders!

Mainly, i'm thinking of a couple options to change the list though. Loose the sabretusk and take banners on the ogre darts to prevent auto-breaking. Drop the 2 x4 Leadbelchers to a single unit of 6, and then spend points on more sabretusks?

Additionally, is it actually worth it putting bellowers onto leadbelcher units? Or just directly swap those points for banners on the ogres instead?

Finally, any advice on what lore would work well with this list? I'm thinking just going for the Great Maw anyway, but I've only played small points games so far with the ogres, and as I have the option to pick any of them, I'd like to pick the most useful for this list (mostly thinking of Heavens or Great Maw so far)

Thanks!


Slaughtermaster: Fencer's Blades; Glittering Scales; Greedy Fist; Level 4 Wizard 385

Bruiser: Gnoblar Thiefstone; great weapon; heavy armour; Battle Standard 190
Firebelly: Hellheart 170

9 Ironguts: Gutlord; Bellower; standard bearer (Standard of Discipline; Look-out Gnoblar) 437
3 Ogres: additional hand weapons 93
3 Ogres: additional hand weapons 93

4 Mournfang Cavalry: heavy armour; ironfists; Bellower; standard bearer (Gleaming Pennant) 305
4 Leadbelchers: Bellower 182
4 Leadbelchers: Bellower 182
1 Sabretusk 21

Ironblaster 170
Ironblaster 170

2,398 points

Why are you concerned with auto breaking?  Rune Maw on BSB and put all chat into gut block. I wouldn't put standards on dart since that would just give up easy points.  Don't need LOG on BSB. Wasted points. 3 tusks are pretty much mandatory.   I would consider a scroll on SM for some extra magic defense. Also think heavens would work out well for you. Bubble harmonic with Leadies and IB is awesome!
My 2  cents

Why are you concerned with auto breaking?  Rune Maw on BSB and put all chat into gut block. I wouldn't put standards on dart since that would just give up easy points.  Don't need LOG on BSB. Wasted points. 3 tusks are pretty much mandatory.   I would consider a scroll on SM for some extra magic defense. Also think heavens would work out well for you. Bubble harmonic with Leadies and IB is awesome!
My 2  cents

Auto-breaking because of the points swing. Auto 2 points extra to the opponent and 2 points i'll never be able to get. But i'm not sure I care too much about that anyway.

No LOG on the BSB so that's all good. If I take the scroll on SM then i'll loose the greedy fist. Worthwhile trade? If I loose that, and the bellowers that'll get me to 3 kitties too

I think it is. Especially at this point level. I don't think you want your SM in combat anyway, so the fist wouldn't really give you all that much. The scroll and kittie will probably have more legs.
Don't understand how you are starting broken. General is 2, BSB 1, and banner in Guts 1 makes 4 fortitude. They have to take out gut unit to break you if that is where all of your chars are.

Sorry, I should have stated that they are using modified rules where the general doesn't count, its banners only, so starting on 3 (bsb, ironguts and mournfang)

Annoying really as banners are worth double in units of 20+, but never getting that with ogres!

That is weird. Ok then ignore the comment on fortitude.  You would think that should be number of wounds instead of models. May want to suggest that. Then adding one more Gut would have you covered.