2000 Starter list

Just got back into Warhammer after a long hiatus (4 years). Coming back in and doing a tale of gamers with my local GW as a refresher and chosen to do ogres. Looking for comments on army composition.

Tyrant (with IG): 260
Heavy Armour
Fencer's Blades
Dragon helm

Butcher (with IG): 144
Level 2 Lore of Great Maw
Great weapon

Butcher (with Ogres): 159
Level 2 Lore of Beasts
Great Weapon
Obsidian trinket

Ogres x 6: 227
Ironfists
Full command
Lookout

Ironguts x 7: 351
Full command
Lookout
Lichebone Pennant

Leadbelchers x 3: 139
Bellower

Mournfangs x 2: 150
Heavy Armour
Ironfists
Standard

Mournfangs x 2: 150
Heavy Armour
Ironfists
Standard

Ironblaster: 170

Stonehorn: 250
Harpoon launcher

Total: 2000

Curious if I should combine the mournfangs into one unit. Also possible switching out the second butcher for a firebelly. Any suggestions welcome. =)

I agree with the idea of combining the mournfang unit, do not go full command though, just have standard and musician.

Firebelly vs second butcher is personal preference, LotGM has great buff spells already and I believe the aggressiveness of fire compliments it well. Plus flaming attacks are always great to strip off regen before your ogres hit.

Note: if played correctly stone horn and mournfang can sweep an entire back line, remember units that flee always have to run from most numerous enemy 

Did GW happen to help you put this list together at all?  Just curious.

Needs Sabretusks.

Jimmy No I picked the models I liked the look of, although must admit originally had the four mournfangs combined then saw some posts on here about using them as support units. Thanks for the suggestion what would you get rid of to make room for sabertusks?

Mawaaagh! Thanks may have to do some rejigging, if I went firebelly which caster should I put with the Ironguts??

I would say put the firebelly in the unit closer to the mournfang, if the MFC won't have dragonhide banner the you may want to try and give them flaming sword of Ruin, goodbye multi would regen monsters and most ethereal beings

One more thing, I would use standard of discipline instead of lichbone pennant, not sure what your gaming meta looks like but unless you are facing only super magic heavy armies then that extra leadership will be more useful than the extra magic resistance

Maybe try to fit in a dispel scroll too on one of your casters

OK so reconfigured this is the new list, let me know what you think

Lords:

Tyrant - 260
Dragon Helm, HA, Fencers Blades

Heroes:
Butcher - 144
Level 2 (LoGM), Great Weapon

Butcher - 169
Level 2 (Beasts), Great weapon, Dispel Scroll

Core:

Ogres x 6 - 227
FC, Lookout, IF

Ironguts x 7 - 326
Standard, Bellower, Lookout

Special:

Leadbelchers x 3 - 139
Bellower

Mournfangs x 4 - 315
HA, IF, Standard, Bellower, Standard of discipline

Rare:

Ironblaster - 170

Stonehorn - 250
Harpoon launcher

Plan is to put LoGM butcher and Tyrant in Ironguts as a jack of all trades centre holder with the ogres that have the beasts butcher in. Mournfangs and Stonehorn act as linebreakers/charge support and Ironblaster and Leadbelchers provide chaff/monster clearance.

This list NEEDS a BSB. Every Ogre army above 1600 points should include a BSB purely to try and counter act our terrible Ld.

Yupp you need a BSB, ogres tend to run away easy otherwise. Drop the leadbelchers and maybe on lvl on the lotgm butcher. Decent equipped bsb costs about 180p

Dropping the leadbelchers and a level on the LoGM Butcher gives me 174, replaced with Bruiser with BSB, HA, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of endurance - 169, then give tyrant potion of foolhardiness for the remaining 5 sound ok?

Or ironcurse icon for 6+ ward against warmachines.

Gleaming pennant on the mournfangs and std of discipline on ironguts.

Dropped an ogre and gave the tyrant a crown of command to counteract the lack of a BSB, put the mournfangs back to 2 units of 2, planning on using them as more of a support than mainline hitter. Now have Ld 9 Stubborn gutstar with maw butcher and Tyrant, along with a second anchor unit of bulls with the beasts butcher. MFC and Stonehorn act as charge support whilst Ironblaster and Leadies deal with other threats. Managed to keep both wizards lvl 2 and end up with a total of 10 units for deployment purposes (7 on the board).

Better??

+ Lords +
 Tyrant [ironfist Heavy Armour] Magic Items and Big Names [BRB - Talisman of Preservation, BRB -

 Heroes +
 Bruiser [Battle Standard Bearer, Great Weapon, Heavy Armour] Magic Items and Big Names [BRB - Talisman of Endurance]
 Butcher [Lore of the Great Maw, Wizard Level 2] Magic Items [BRB - Dispel Scroll]
 Butcher [Lore of Beasts, Wizard Level 2] Magic Items [AB - Grut's Sickle

] + Core +
Ironguts [Bellower, 9x Ironguts] Standard Bearer [BRB - Standard of Discipline]
 Ogres [3x Ogres]

 Special +
Mournfang Cavalry 2x Ogre [2x Heavy Armour, 2x Ironfists]
Mournfang Cavalry 2x Ogre [2x heavy armour 2x ironfist

] + Rare +
 Ironblaster
Stonehorn

Trying to keep the spirit of your list. With some smal changes

No musicians?

Dont think you need it for the mfc. A unit of 2 is mobile enogh.

Ideal for fleeing then rallying however.

Thanks where would you put the heroes and lords? May shuffle my list to get the changes in

Think all of it has to go with the gutstar.

Ideal for fleeing then rallying however.

Thats true but i belive mfc are fast enogh to get the charges they want and avoid the ones they dont. Maybe its just me that dont like run and rally for ogres.

Maybe it is. 

After looking at the revised list myself, I was thinking of a few changes.

First,  I think your heroes would be better if you were to take a kitted out Slaughter Master and Bruiser BSB, since I  feel two Butchers and Tyrant don't really do a good job. (I guess you could take SM Firebelcher Bruiser if you wanted to be magic heavy).

Then I think you need to include a bigger number of core troops, since your heroes will be sitting in core, so taking either 12 Bulls or Guts to attach heroes to in 4-wide ranks will be really formidable.

Last of all, I think replacing the Stonehorn with a second cannon / more Leadbelchers to make the list stronger, since if you are worried about needing more support or having something that doesn't die to cannons those are better.

Thanks for all the suggestions definitely thinking of having more ogres/ironguts, tbh I'm not trying to make a super competitive list but one I will enjoy playing hence the blender tyrant and stonehorn who I know aren't exactly meta. I've never been one for magic heavy armies (dwarfs were my first army) hence the combat lord choice

Stonehorn can be incredibly usefull. I managed to cut down a unit of 20 isch hammerers (i think they where, dwarves with gw) and run them down. It has also single handly breaked and killed a frost phonix.