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Tribe of Ghilda Rulemaker

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Introduction

So, I've decided to collect Ogres. I'm intending for this Gnoblog to record my progress and show off the forces as they are assembled. To start with a little bit of background might be in order though so this first post will be all about me and my reasons for choosing the big-bellied beasts. The next post will focus on what has happened so far. After that the posts will detail what I've been doing with the force since the previous time.

So, to start with I got into the hobby way back in... well, around 1993. Can't remember exactly when. I do know, however, that the 4th edition High Elf book had just been released and that was the army I started with. My heart beat for the Dark Elves but since they had no book and the light cousins had just got a nice, shining book I settled for them instead.
The Elves became my force for around 8 years or so. Possibly 9. During the time I also flirted briefly with Space Marines, Eldar and Chaos Dwarves (lost all my CD models by accident. About 1500 points in metal. :( )

With the arrival of the 6th edition High Elf book I got too frustrated with them and switched to the Undead which I used for a couple of years. Eventually I sold off that army as it was too boring. Too reliant on magic and the general. In other words, I didn't really have fun with it.
With the money I gained from the sale I purchased an Empire force instead, made several conversions and played with it for some time. Now, the main point for me in gaming has always been to have fun. People liked playing against my humans and I did pretty well in my native Denmark. I then moved to Poland though and after playing with them in two tournaments I gave up on them. The mentality here is different and way more competitive. After noticing that the normal Empire build here revolved around a tank, 4 wizards, max artillery, two IC knight units and then handgunners I scrapped them for the sole reason that I wasn't having fun. The powerlevel was really through the roof compared to what I was used to. The army then made its way to Ebay and was sold.

That is almost a year ago now. For that time I didn't play at all and had no real interest. I couldn't just let it go then. I needed a hobby and some fun. So, I started thinking long and hard about what to do and tried to come up with an idea for an army.
I knew I wanted an army that I enjoyed the look at, was fun to use and fun to play against. Also, I wanted one without too much infantry as I had had enough of that after painting and transporting an empire infantry army. Too much hassle. That ruled out several armies. Bretonnia was never an option as I consider them too point and click, too popular and not really fun to use or to play against. The new Wood Elves were in contention, but dropped because of too many skirmishers. Dwarfs had too much infantry and were too slow to really appeal though the fluff is excellent.
Chaos was briefly considered as well, but dropped as I'm not that keen on the newer models.
In the end I was down to Ogres, Dark Elves and a Daemonic Legion.

Having decided it was to be one of those I started looking at the weaknesses of them. The Legion would be very expensive to collect and was thus ruled out though I'd still love to get my hands on some 60 plaguebearers.
The Elves were a strong contender again, but in this environment I didn't consider them good. I don't want to use a dragon nor do I want to get steamrollered. They were shelved again.
The Ogres... well, the book is considered weak by many, but I'm not really sure I agree with it. It also had some massive advantages. It is low in modelcount, so easy to pack and move. It is almost all plastic, so not too heavy either. Further, it is easy to convert the models into characters, it is rather cheap and, most of all, it looked to be fun both to play with and against. The choice was made!

Coming up next:
My initial background drafts, thoughts on the units, models collected so far and some info on my first battles.
Army idea

Well, initially I had little idea of what I wanted. Mainly I just wanted an army consisting solely of Ogres and with no gnoblars at all. No leadbelchers either. A lot of thinking has, however, made me change my mind. First off I suppose I should say that the deadline for this force is to be the Eastern European Grand Tournament which will most likely be held in March... so I don't have much time.

Apart from a select few models I'm planning to run all metal. In fact, apart from two gorgers and my tyrant I'm not planning on metal at all. I'd rather convert the rest through the use of bulls. I may be forced to get some trappers as well though.

Brief Fluff Background
My idea is to have the tribe led by a female ogre despite the fact that they are not really mentioned in the book and the society seems strongly patriarchal, dominant male and all that. My leader will be a female who used to be the mate of the old tyrant. She eventually got enough of his bullying though, knocked him senseless and ate him. As they say, "Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned". Well, he learned that the hard way. The rest of the tribe was not too keen on this initially, but fearing what she would do to them after despatching their old leader, something none of them could do, they decided that it would be prudent to do as she said rather than be "invited over for dinner".
This has given rise to females in the tribe as the males have gained a healthy respect for them and some even join with the warbands.
I'm also considering having the tribe being out on the hunt for new things to cook as they are tired of always eating the same. That'll also allow me to something fit in the old halfling cook model I have from the hot pot model.

The army so far
As general I'm using the female maneater. I really like the model and it will do very nicely. As a matter of fact it just arrived in the mail today after I was fortunate enough to win it on Ebay.

Apart from this I have 4 ironguts (painted and based) and one gorger (also painted and based). I'm trying not to buy new stuff until I've painted what I have.

I will try to get some pictures tomorrow and then post them for your viewing pleasure.

Future plans
As said I initially wanted to go all bulls and guts with a pair of gorgers. I didn't really rate the gnoblars and while I still don't rate them in a straight fight I have decided that they do have value. Mainly they can cover a flank to prevent and nasty fast cavalry from running that way and, at the least, contest a table quarter. Even if they turn out to run away it won't be a disaster due to the low points cost.
For much of the same reasons I'm thinking trappers might be good. Namely, they are cheap and can help me by doing march blocking. Anything that attacks them is something not bothering the big guys. They might even manage to deal with warmachines.

I'm going to need some 2 boxes of bulls. One of them will turn into two units of 3 bulls whereas the other will turn into 3 butchers, a BSB and 2 iron guts with the left over sprues.

As mentioned I have 4 guts so far. With two extra from those sprues and one box more it'll take me to 10. Most likely it'll be 2*3 and 1*4 units. Not ideal, but it'll have to do.

Most of this I can get from one battalian box so right now my choice is to either get that or a box of bulls.

On the issue of leadbelchers... it is something I need to test. I can see the value in getting a shot off against cavalry or a price elite unit. I can also see the value in a small, manouverable unit of 2 ogres who can cancel out ranks. The price of 55 points per model just seems too high and I'm not sure I wouldn't be better served with just bulls instead. Should I decide to go for bulls then I'll most likely attempt to convert them into guts as well.

For now I'm weighing my options and keeping an eye on E-bay. The next practical thing to do will be painting the Maneater. If all goes well it should be done by the end of the weekend. Tomorrow I will clean the moldlines and undercoat it. If I have time I'm also start on it, but I'm not too confident of that.

Battles so far
I have played 2 battles of 1000 points so far. I didn't really want to as I have to proxy models, but the local shop needed a player for a small tournament. I didn't have time to stay for all three battles, but did provide my services as a kind of ringer army for the first two rounds. That were my first games in over a year and, as such, the first in 7th edition.
My army had a butcher with bangstick + scroll, a bruiser with GW, a fistful of laurels and the wyrdstone necklace. My units were 3 naked bulls, 2*3 guts with banner (one warbanner), a gorger and trappers for the rest. The ogres did have bellowers.

First I was paired with a Bretonnia army. More knights than I had Ogres  :? As I recall there were two realm units, one errant, one pegasi, some archers and some man-at-arms. One BSB of course and a hero. There was also a smattering of magic items.
After some manouvering one of my gut units (with bruiser) was triplecharged  :shock: Fortunately my unit had had recieved the blessing of the maw and had +1 T and stubborn. It was needed. I also needed my laurels to reroll as I rolled a nice 11 for the first break test. That was, however, the turning point. Stuck in combat there was little they could do as my brutes enjoyed their high toughness and strenght to slay knights left, right and centre. The Bret BSB was easily killed off in a challenge that he accepted for some strange reason. Without his banner and +1 CR virtue things became much easier for me.
A subsequent flank charge from the other gut unit routed all of the Bret units. A well positioned gorger killed off one unit as it was forced to flee through him, one fled off the table and the last was easily killed the following round with the bangstick.
The Bret general and his unit had earlier been diverted into a forest as my bulls sacrificed themselves to get them out the way. It wasn't meant as a sacrifice, but even with a flank charge they bounced off. Amazing what happens when you only hit twice with 9 attacks.
I learned that the magic is very, very useful and a luck-gnoblar is highly useful even if your ward is only 5+. Too bad they can only be used once. I gained a surprising 16-4 win.

Next I was paired with an all-mounted Dark Elf force. Not much to say here. my bangstick killed the pegasus used by the lord and bonecruncher then killed him. My opponent didn't seem to know the spell and had used all his dispeldice when I cast it. Result: 5 wounds on the elf and his 1+ save rendered useless.
I had a massacre in it until I opened my big mouth in his turn 6 and asked if he was sure his two remaining dark riders didn't want to charge my butcher. He had started moving but I told him he had a good chance and allowed him the charge. Off course my butcher was then run down and killed. He was on his own to get into a better position for using his magic. Even so, another 16-4 win was recorded.

This put me in second place when I had to go to a family birthday, but I do wish I could have had the last game too against a Wood Elf army containing a ton of trees... including a Treeman.

Well, lots of things learned. The magic is good, trappers are highly prone to bickering (5 ones on 8 rolls) and gorgers aren't that useful for killing stuff, but good at tying units and getting into those crossfire positions.

Phew... that was more than I intended to write. Next: Pictures of the army so far. I expect they'll come tomorrow. Untill next time: May your bellies never be empty!
Looks good, I'll be following this one, looking forward to pics. Everyting's better with pics ;)

Thanks
Corai








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Testing... keep getting timed out errors when trying to add pics :(

EDIT: Still getting errors when trying to add pictures. I've even checked Hraggeds guide to see if I'm doing anything wrong, but no. Will keep trying.
Nope, I keep getting 406 error messages when adding the links to my replies. Really weird. Just as a teaser I've attached a single image. I have more though.
looks good, I really like the thick snowy base

Thanks
Corai








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December 11th, 2006

Well, it still won't work for me when linking to pictures, so I've attached a few more for you. Some more of the Gorger and a few of some Iron Guts.

Hope the pictures are viewable :)
A few more pictures for you :)
And two more. I think I'm going to make an album somewhere. For some reason I keep getting errors when linking to Imageshack.

the irn guts looks nice. For image linking try photobucket, I've never had any trouble with it

Thanks
Corai








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Looks awesome man!  I wspecially like the good lookin eye on that Irongut close up.  Well Done!
This thread is worthless without pictures
Cheers guys :) It'll be a bit quiet now for a few days. I have the next model ready, but it still needs to have the moldlines cleaned and such. I'll post some pics once it's ready.

I can say though that it's the female maneater.
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