Tryptic
11 Feb 2014
I have been having this discussion with several people as of late that the power disparity between Ogres and other books seems to have been dwindling now a few years later. Don't misunderstand my post by saying we now possess a weak army book. It seems that I'm not going into games feeling as though I could be blind and inebriated and still manage a win.
New army books have been close in power level? People have been educated on counteracting our tricks?
I'm inclined to say a mix, except in the case of WoC where I feel nervous most games do to the toys they have. What are your thoughts?
MasteroDisaster
11 Feb 2014
I'm inclined to agree, I think that although our book maintains it's intimidating strengths and at times glaring weaknesses people are getting their hands on the newer 8th books which come with new bells and whistles.
Some of the newer books scare me silly, WoC being the obvious one but HEs and DE's can really lay down some hurt and even Lizzies can put up a serious fight. I think this shows that many of the newer books are becoming more well rounded and balanced which is great for the game as a whole.
It also has to be said that being one of the earlier books released people have become aware of many of our tricks and we no longer hold so many aces up the sleeve. People are more aware of how we can over-power opponents and can counter our tactics more easily due to experience or new toys from the newer books.
Phazael
11 Feb 2014
People have started finally adapting as knowledge has trickled down from the top about how to tackle Ogres. I still think Ogres are a strong diverse book that should be the base point around which all future books are balanced. The only thing that has changed is people adapting and an increase in the use of MCav (which is likely itself a reaction to Ogres in the meta). Its still a good book and fun to play.
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psychichobo
11 Feb 2014
Yeah, I feel that as time has gone on people are now more used to fighting Monstrous Infantry. New books certainly make a big difference, but I feel that they've also pushed people away from their more traditional tactics.
Generally when people start up an army, if it's a slightly older one the advice they receive is often a bit skewed in favour of what's always worked best. When a new book comes out people spend a lot more time experimenting and discovering that the conventionally accepted armies are not always what works for them.
Then there's Tomb Kings where no-one can agree on what works.
Ogres - because who honestly likes 2 wound heroes?