New FAQ

A word of warning - don't get any hopes up gents. The only change is to remove all mention of impact hits from Greasus:

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3180068a_Ogre_Kingdoms_v1.1_APRIL13.pdf

Pretty disappointing considering the long-standing Hellheart issue.

Wait, scrap that, it appears that the part that allows the Greedy Fist to apply to ranged attacks has gone.

Well, at least something happened and it did clarify something relevant for the greedy fist that now just lost a bit more of its uses.

It is as if GW dont want to fix things - I mean, making the effort to officially make the FAQ and then ending up only doing this little is a bit sad. Hopefully they are busting their asses off to update some other stuff : )

The way things are going it seems they're busting their ass to push out new army books every month.

I dont mind that either...

Demons got a new FAQ too and more importantly the main game faq 1.8 is out too.

Spoilers:

No more auto wound:

Page 51 – Close Combat, Roll To Wound.
Add the following sentence to the end of the fourth paragraph:
‘A To Wound roll of a 1 on a D6 always fails, regardless of any
dice modifiers.’

Page 42 – Shooting, Roll To Wound.
Add the following sentence to the end of the fourth paragraph:
‘A To Wound roll of a 1 on a D6 always fails, regardless of any
dice modifiers.’

Craziness:
Q: Do units benefit from their General’s Inspiring Presence for the
purposes of spells that use Leadership, such as Spirit Leech or
Okkam’s Mindrazor? (p107)
A: Yes

Nice clarification
Q: Is a character mounted on a monster, chariot or monstrous beast
susceptible to the Killing Blow special rule? (p72)
A: No, as the character’s troop type as changes to ‘monster’,
‘chariot’ or ‘monstrous cavalry’ respectively, thereby rendering
Killing Blow ineffective. Only Heroic Killing Blow will work
against these targets.


180 degree turn from last FAQ:
Q: If a unit charges into combat and, on the turn it charges, the last
of the enemy unit it is fighting are removed as casualties due to
Daemonic Instability, the Unstable special rule, Cornered Rats or as
a result of a War Machine failing its Break test, does the charging
unit get to make an Overrun move? (p58).
A: Yes.

A little Ogre love:
Page 71 – Special Rules, Resolving Impact Hits.
Add the following sentence to the end of the third paragraph:
‘“Look Out Sir!” rolls cannot be taken against Impact Hits.’

I can see a lot of TK players not enjoying the change to the crumble thing!

How does the impact hits FAQ help us or anything else that causes impact hits?  IIRC impact hits are distributed as shooting, so no LoS! needed.  Plus as soon as there are less than 5 RnF models a LoS! is not allowed and hits has to be allocated anyway...

How does the impact hits FAQ help us or anything else that causes impact hits?  IIRC impact hits are distributed as shooting, so no LoS! needed.  Plus as soon as there are less than 5 RnF models a LoS! is not allowed and hits has to be allocated anyway...

For lone characters within 3" of a unit, as they normally get LOS but not anymore for impact hits. It is a minor benefit though but may help when charging an engineer or so.

Glad the greedy fist argument is done now.

Glad we can over-run crumbling VC and slaves now.. thats the biggest boon we get from this round of FAQs.

The impact hit ruling only applied to a solo character near a unit of like models.  Impact hits are still distributed like shooting, so its not like you can direct impact hits on a character within a unit.  This was likely because of the Daemon book and the silliness of a solitary Slaanesh Herald with Grace Locus (autopass LoS rolls) completely ignoring the impact hits from a chariot when charged by one.

Ah yes, forgot about lone characters getting the 4+ LoS!  Curse my previous Editions mind-set!

Its not like a character getting lone charged by a unit of Ogres is going to last long anyway most of the time, LoS or not.

Thank the maw that slaves can't explode and prevent my mournfangs from overrunning anymore.  It was getting old killing them almost to the man and then just being stuck there.

Glad the greedy fist argument is done now.

I'm probably wrong, but now that GW took the greedy fist/range ruling away it's now ambiguous and open for debate.

Unless that was sarcasm.

There's nothing ambiguous. It says close combat, so that's what it is.

LOL the deathfist is dead as a dodo now.

There's no reason to say it does anything but close combat now.

Pretty much.  It was the two rulings that made it ambiguous.

Nothing groundbreaking, but a nice clear FAQ for a change.

There's nothing ambiguous. It says close combat, so that's what it is.

Sorry, misunderstood Eg's first post. I thought they removed greedy fist ruling entirely.

Has anybody done any consideration of the new FAQs and how they will affect the Ogres?

My upcoming concern is new lists with death-spam as spirit leach now use the inspiring presence making any ogre unit outside the 12" bubble a juicy target by our overall low Ld. eg Ld7 for the stonehorn and cousin, and mournfangs.

Well I think it's actually less good for death choirs as its easier to defend against. A point for tyrants over slaughtermasters though.

No more automatic wounds with Flaming Sword

With the change to burning skull (lore of fire) will this prompt people to take it more often now? IMHO there are still a lot better spells in fire but now you can nuke people in combat.

I can see it having a great use in a flank sit 1" away and cast it nuking everything with in 18" as you big group of ogres hit the front

A Firebelly down at the end of the front line can just Burning Head the stuffing out of the enemy unit his own unit is fighting now? I'll take that, yes please!