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2400 vs. Ogres

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I have a civil war match coming up and I was wondering how you all think this list would go down.

SM - Lvl, Dispel Scroll, Fencer's, Greedy Fist - 385
Br - BSB, HA, Enchanted Shield, Sword of Striking, Rock Eye - 159

Bulls - 8, Command, LoG, Ironfists - 291
Ironguts - 8, Command, Stan o Disc, LoG - 394

LeadB - 8, Bellower - 354
Sabre - 21
Sabre - 21
Sabre - 21
Mournfang - 2, HA, IF - 140
Man Eaters - 5, EHW, Swiftstride, Scout - 270

Ironblaster - 170
Ironblaster - 170

2396 pts. 

I am thinking of dropping the MF and taking a FB, but i like the idea of a small yet strong flanker.  Thoughts?
The enemy of my enemy is my double enemy.

Gut magic:  The art of eating what nobody else wants to eat, just to see what happens.
Hey GotG :)

I would love the idea of a FB in this list! however I think you will need the MFC, they can move fast and hit hard where you need them. Chances are your opponent will take 3-4 of them.
Man eaters with scout will do you well :) they never fail :) Maybe try brace of pistols + snipe? for taking out his BSB or other key characters? as we rely heavily on buffs and if he has no gut/beasts magic then... :)
But the Ehw can do well if you get the flank on his Ib's :)
Leadbelcher why not run them 2x4? and you can clear his chaff turn 1? :)
As for your BR/SM they look perfect :) still don't see the appeal or rock eye ;) but then its nice to know what your opponent is rolling with :)

Goodluck!
Chris
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Problem with the MFC is that they excel against strength and toughness three infantry. Against Ogres they're not going to be all the effective, especially if their targets end up being Ironguts. They can also be Ironblasted off the board.
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I fought an ogre civil war match the other day.

My list:

SM - Lvl 4, Dispel Scroll, Fencer's, Greedy Fist - 385
Br - BSB, HA, Enchanted Shield - 139

Bulls - 8, Command, LoG, Ironfists - 291
Ironguts - 8, Command, Stan o Disc, LoG - 394

LeadB - 4, Bellower - 182
LeadB - 4, Bellower - 182
Sabre - 21
Sabre - 21
Sabre - 21
Mournfang - 2, HA, IF - 140
Man Eaters - 5, EHW, Musician, Swiftstride, Scout - 280

Ironblaster - 170
Ironblaster - 170

2396 pts.

He took a tyrant, 2 firebellys, 12 ironguts, 2 units of 8 bulls, 3 mournfang, and 2 ironblasters. 

I beat him to a bloody pulp and ate what was left over.  I table him after 4 turns, and I still had:
Slaughermaster
3 Bulls
BSB
8 leadbelchers
5 maneaters
1 ironblaster

I still had about 1400 points left.

We did the dawn attack scenario(I think).  It's the one where you have a diagnal line seperating you with only 12 in between both armies and you have to roll to see if you start on the board.

His entire army was present and only my slaughtermaster didn't deploy.

I deployed behind a wall and waited for him to come to me.  I peppered him with leadbelchers, I hit his ironblaster turn 1 with my mournfang, my maneaters scouted behind his army and pressured him forward.  His mournfang hit my ironguts, but because of the wall he didn't get impact hits and I murdered them.  I also got the Maw off on his generals unit and killed 3 ironguts. :D

One of his bull/firebell units hit my ironguts and wiped them out after i killed the mournfang.  His tyrant and iroguts hit my bulls and because of bullgorger on my bulls, I butchered his generals unit.  He stuck because of stubborn and his bulls/firebelly threatened to flank me, so I decided to find out how good my slaughtermaster really was.  I charged the unit directly in hopes of stopping him from flanking me.  In my magic phase i jumped my SM to S6 T6.  He wrecked house.  WS 10, S6, T6, 5 attacks.  He held them for 2 complete turns and let my leadbelchers flank his generals unit and win the combat.  His other unit of bulls/firebelly was wiped by leadbelchers, ironblasters, and mournfang.

The civil war is over!  At least until we get hungry again...

Note to ogre players.  The lore of fire kinda sucks against ogres...  He only got a few wounds with it the entire game.  I was able to completely control magic.  Though that's more than likely just because I had a lvl 4 and he only had a lvl 2...
The enemy of my enemy is my double enemy.

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