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Trying out an MSU style. 2000pts.

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Tyrant w. Tenderizer, Fistful of Laurels, Wyrdstone Necklace.  285pts.
Joins the large bull unit.

Butcher w. Skullmantle, Dispel Scroll.  175pts.
Joins the irongut unit.

Butcher w. Bangstick, Dispel Scroll.  180pts.
Runs alone as an anti-skirmisher.

3 Bulls w. Ogre Clubs.  105pts.
3 Bulls w. Ogre Clubs.  105pts.
Bait/flanking units

5 Bulls w. Ogre Clubs, Standard.  195pts.
Aligns 2 rows of 3 w. tyrant escort.  One of two hammers.

5 Ironguts w. Standard, War Banner.  285pts.
Aligns 4 in front, 2 behind w. butcher.  One of two hammers.

20 Gnoblars w. Groinbiter.  42pts.
Bait unit/free deploy.

8 Gnoblar trappers.  48pts.
March blocker/bait unit/harassment

2 Leadbelchers.  110pts.
2 Leadbelchers.  110pts.
Anti-fast calvalry.  Flankers/bait.

3 Yheetees.  195pts.
Flankers/anti-skirmisher.

Maneater w. Heavy Armor, Great Weapon.  90pts.
Chariot/Secondary Warmachine hunter.  Can blunt charges from calvalry with less than two attacks(due to small frontage.  It's just for a turn, but that's all I need).

Gorger.  75pts.
Warmachine hunter/marchblocker.  Can join in a larger combat to add numbers/killing power.

Pts.: 2000
Models: 56(28 Ogres!)

Basic strategies have been outlined.  Basically a lot of bait-n-flee.  If bait isn't taken, I can smash through most ranked units with my hammer units.  Vs. calvalry armies, baiting all the way.  If my opponent doesn't take it, I'll wait until I can set up a double-charge.  The gorger and yheetees can wait in the wings to hunt down whomever flees.   Thoughts?
Doesn't look like MSU to me.
MSU consists in having as few characters as possible, and as many cheap units as possible: from what I see, you have 2 small units of bulls, the rest is just too expensive to be MSU.
MSU style of play, by definition, cannot have hammer units: its point is having all weak units, that work together.
An Ogre MSU army would have way more units of 3 bulls (way more!!! like 7-8, plus all the rest).

Not dealing with MSU, though, the list seems fine, even though I am not too sure about the lone butcher.
I also suggest to deploy 4-2, instead of 3-3.
One last thing I would do is to exchange the maneater for a second gorger: 1 maneater won't be as effective as the added spice a second gorger would.
cheers
Ikimik Tyrant sal-eats you

My are named: Bodo, Giugi, Oscar, Spank, Grizo and Regis.
I agree. Not really an msu army.

Without going into too much detail on the concerns I have with certain units, I would say that bellowers were needed all over the place. Ld 7 is really not so great and with the preponderance of shooting and the like, it is conceivable that panic tests cannot be avoided. Ld 8 on the rally is pretty important. Especially if you are intending msu where you flee with one unit and flank with others. No point doing that if your flee unit never comes back.
Not a MSU army as said, but I disagree with Ikim on point. You need characthers in MSU to get some kicking in battle and protection from magic.

Anyway it's not a bad list and it seems like you have a purpose with every unit and that good icon_wink I would have used 3x3 ironguts and no big Bull unit. Just naked bulls. A bellower on the Bull units would also have been nice. They really need that extra ld.
Ok, I guess you're right that it's not as much MSU.  Still, I will take the suggestions to heart.  By replacing the maneater with the second gorger, I can free up enough points for a pair of bellowers.  Should they go in the small bull units?  The big units?  The belchers?

I suppose the arrangement of the bull unit will depend on the table size.  I usually play on fairly small tables, but if I can spare the increased size, I'll definitely consider it.
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