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Ogres Win the Masters!

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The Ogre Kingdoms have won a UK Masters event! Not sure if the general posts here on the Stronghold... but speak up if you do and congrats!

Here is a rundown of the list that won it all. This list is 10.3 under the Swedish comp system currently in use at events.

Player: Tom Mawdsley

1 Slaughtermaster @ 340pts (-32)
General; Lore of Heavens, Magic Level 4
Talisman of Preservation, Ironcurse Icon, Warrior Bane

1 Bruiser @ 205pts (-22)
Battle Standard Bearer, Heavy Armour, Great Weapon
Rune Maw

1 Butcher @ 134pts (-12)
Lore of the Great Maw, Magic Level 1, Great Weapon
Dispel Scroll

1 Butcher @ 105pts (-5)
Lore of Death, Magic Level 1
Tormentor Sword

6 Ironguts w/ Full Command, Look-Out Gnoblar, Standard of Discipline @ 308pts (-23)
3 Ogres w/ Ironfists @ 96pts (-6)
3 Ogres w/ Ironfists @ 96pts (-6)
10 Gnoblars w/ Trappers @ 50pts (-2)
10 Gnoblars w/ Trappers @ 50pts (-2)

4 Leadbelchers w/ Musician @ 182pts (-13)
2 Mournfang Cavalry w/ Musician, Heavy Armour, Ironfists @ 150pts (-12)
2 Mournfang Cavalry w/ Musician, Heavy Armour, Ironfists @ 150pts (-18)
1 Gorger @ 90pts (-4)
1 Sabertusk @ 21pts (-2)

1 Stonehorn @ 250pts (-15)
1 Ironblaster @ 170pts (-23)

Total Army Cost – 2,397pts
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Ogre Achievements Complete: 10/101
Fantastic!
Quote from: rocdocta on Jun 20, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: Phazael on Jun 17, 2014, 07:53:15 PM
Roc, your math is correct, but bereft of tactical considerations

yep that sums how i play =)
...Damn.

I'd love to see some battle reports or something, because that list looks like trash.  Man must be a wizard, and congrats on what had to be a series of hard-fought battles.
Well, bear in mind that it's Swedish comp, which will tone down the opposition a fair bit as well. But yeah, that's a bit too MSU for my taste.
"The best defense is a good offense." -General George S. Patton

"Everything in europe is comped badly. ETC is just 7th edition in disguise." -Shimmergloom from Da Warpath, on comp

My philosophy on gaming, courtesy of Herm Edwards.
He... Gasp... Even has a... Gasp... Stonehorn in his list.

While I use mine regularly, I would be surprised to see it in a tournament, even more so in a win-it-all list.

Well done!
My hood is my castle...
That's really interesting, I second the desire to see a battle report on this.  I mainly run an MMU style list, I'll need to try making an MSU like this.
-The cold fury of the Frost Giants-
http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=20373.0
I think some threadomancy's gone on here - that list is clearly from 6th/7th! Can't see the 2x3 Yhetees or Tenderiser though... In all seriousness, the guy must really know what he's doing, takes some skill to do so well with an unconventional list like that.
I don't suffer from mental instability. In fact, I enjoy it immensely.

Gutlord Inquisitor: FORUM FIGHT! Me, I'm betting on the stronghold. Sure, they're outnumbered with thick skulls, stubborn bull-headedness and an inflated sense of self-worth, but hey, they're Ogres.
I think the whole "we can't make a decent ogre list with Swedish comp" is anecdotely (is that a word?) disproved.

For those who want more info check Ben Curry's Bad dice reports (as he sponsored it) and the warhammer forum, where he posted more info on it.
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol

Ogre achievements: 41/101
Depends on what you mean by "decent"

Decent for Swedish Comp, sure.

Decent for general. hell no.

Whats with the Lvl1 with Death?
Current win streak: 10

Things Fluffy has flattened: Ancient Stegadon, Unit of 5 Chariots with Tomb king, Chaos Lord, Herald of Khorne on Jugger,
x58 Forever steadfast
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(")_(") This is Bunny________ This is bunny after a Thunderstomp
Listening to the BAd Dice podcasts for this it sounds like the main strength of the list was deployment.  With all those drops it sounds like he was able to manage his opponents superbly.  I love the anecdote about his keeping a rat ogre unit with a warlord out of commission the whole game with trappers and a well timed gorger.  Still would love to see a turn by turn report of any of his matches though.
-The cold fury of the Frost Giants-
http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=20373.0
Decent for general. hell no.

Isn't that a bit of an assumption? Swedish comp certainly changes a lot of the nature of the game, but I think it's safe to say a tournament-winning list is going to be 'decent' anywhere except the Ardboys finals.
I don't suffer from mental instability. In fact, I enjoy it immensely.

Gutlord Inquisitor: FORUM FIGHT! Me, I'm betting on the stronghold. Sure, they're outnumbered with thick skulls, stubborn bull-headedness and an inflated sense of self-worth, but hey, they're Ogres.
Have seen similar lists used by few very skillfull player, but not with ogres. Yes, the list has several drops (the whole idea of his list is based pretty much on many deployment drops). It also has few units to deal with big CC and several units to hang in and win medium CC and common units. Playing lot of diverters is the way to win if u ask me, but I dont posses that much skill my self. This guy made a list that with he can beat everybody with diverters setting the phase and events in the game. And, the most important, it seems he build a list to deal with other players with same main idea and good skills.
Sweat saves blood
Whats with the Lvl1 with Death?
He has lot of small units to face opponents small units and diverters, but with spirit leech he can take out ethereal diverters VC brings in the game. All his characters went in IG's I think, so thats why he even had 5p magic weapons.
Sweat saves blood
He's going to use a Ld7 spirit leech to counter etherial chaff?

Thats a max of one model killed a turn, and most certaintly less due to the butcher's apalling Ld.
Current win streak: 10

Things Fluffy has flattened: Ancient Stegadon, Unit of 5 Chariots with Tomb king, Chaos Lord, Herald of Khorne on Jugger,
x58 Forever steadfast
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(") This is Bunny________ This is bunny after a Thunderstomp
No he is using the highest leadership in the unit.

And it is mainly for the ethereal characters
Cormorant on thundertusk ASL rule
Quote from: Cormorant on Aug 24, 2011, 05:46:24 PM
Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol

Ogre achievements: 41/101
I would think that he doesn't have to use spirit leech.  Caress and Fate would likely be better at killing ethereals, especially ethereal characters in the front of units.  I don't think I would even take the sig spell unless I rolled Aspect.  Every other Death spell would be quite useful.

-Snark
Wildcards's Ogre achievements: 78/101

8th edition: 100/26/9
Recent results:  My ogres place 13th Overall at the US Masters (78 players);  My ogres place 2nd Overall at Brawler Bash (65 players);  My ogres place 2nd Overall at Adios, Eight Edition! (49 players)
Spirit leech would be a good spell against spirit host. But the other spells are more dymanic and better overall..so why not lvl 1 death butcher??! :D By the way, he had points left for an ironfist on this guy :O :D
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