demigryphs

the new rules for monstrous cav mean that DG riders are T4. Damn.

But it also makes Rhinox Riders T5

Do blood crushers have T4? I don't actually know of the top of my head.

But it also makes Rhinox Riders T5

As if my opponents don't have enough to whine about regarding my Mournfangs and Grimhorns...

I don't mind the change for Demigryphs much, but you have to realize that this also means that Unkillable DE Lords are now T4 as well as pretty well protected. Bonecrusher is now less of an option against these guys, even though you can still pull it off.

I don't have the DoC book at hand from memory and according to the BRB, Bloodcrushers already had T4 (even though only 2 wounds).

Demigryphs were already pretty on-par with mournfang. Now Demigryphs might actually take the "top monstrous cav" crown from mournfang. Certainly point for point Demigryphs beat the snot out of mournfangs in a one on one fight.

Demigryphs dont have D3 impact hits on the charge and also have less attacks. They do have a better Save, better Ld and I but I think that all in all, it's pretty even. We also have a 6+ ward that they don't have.

I was kinda disappointed with demi's being T3.  Now the world finally makes sense.

SeBM, for all the MF have, even with T3 DGK have the edge in a drawn-out fight between an equal points amount of MF and DGK. Now if you run the numbers, DGK will beat the snot out of an equal points of MF. Be warned!

Both units are different IMO. I'd much rather have MFC to clear big blocks of Infantry. Demigryphs hit harder but have less attacks. Both units are monstrous cavalry but both will shine in different roles. Also, a unit of MFC has more mobility.

All in all, I think both are just great units and I'm glad they made Monstrous Cavalry.

But yeah, I would rather have my MFC charge something else then Demigryphs.

For me I wouldn't have used MF to kill off Demi's anyway. In cricket terms Mournfang would be flat track bully's. When the conditions are right(charging lightly armored infantry) they score HIGH. Demi's are good at hunting special units like enemy knights ect. But OK against infantry as well.

Shoot Demi's with your cannons and S6 lore of heavens spells. Use fangs to break blocks and kill the rest with buffed ironguts.

Seems like you and I agree on both units shining in different roles hehe.

No disagreement that they have different roles and a demigryph still can't match mournfang for infantry slaughter. But they got quite a chunk tougher. We're going to see a heap more of them on the tables!

not for $91 we aren't.

No disagreement that they have different roles and a demigryph still can't match mournfang for infantry slaughter. But they got quite a chunk tougher. We're going to see a heap more of them on the tables!

Fine by me!!! It's a nice model, they don't wear pyjamas like the rest of the army and we'll just have to find a way to deal with them! I don't think they are broken, they just made them as good as they should be!

Demigryphs are a unit meant to hunt elite high armor save units.

Mournfangs are a unit meant to blend cheap infantry hordes.


Obviously the Demigryphs will beat Mournfangs. They are the perfect target.

Mournfangs win on the charge due to impact hits, but the Mournfangs will be seriously mauled.

not for $91 we aren't.

You see units of 4 mournfangs, and that unit costs $72.

Demigryphs come in boxes of 3 as well. So the cost permodel is about the same.

not for $91 we aren't.

You see units of 4 mournfangs, and that unit costs $72.

Demigryphs come in boxes of 3 as well. So the cost permodel is about the same.

HA! I wish it cost $72. Its $122 here in Australia. But I still bought it. And now I feel dirty.

Australia already has soooo much awsome between the wombats and killer drop bears that any awsome that gets imported has to be appropriatly restricted, lest the awsome cause Australia to sink into the sea.

Killer drop bears suck. Wombats can be awesome though. 40cm feet tall 40kg and can run faster than a man!

Fat little troopers, there should be wombat cav in warhammer. It would totally destroy bear cav

And emu cav as a fast attack option.

And emu cav as a fast attack option.

I would bleed my wallet for such a cav...

I've only faced DGK a couple of times, but I've found that Empire players are a little careless with them, trusting that 1+ armor to save their bacon.  A flank shot from an ironblaster usually corrects that assumption.

I've only faced DGK a couple of times, but I've found that Empire players are a little careless with them, trusting that 1+ armor to save their bacon.  A flank shot from an ironblaster usually corrects that assumption.

Problem why they are so careless, is that they also have a tank and some warmachines you really need the ironblaster for