Getting Started

I Have been looking over the Warhammer fantasy books and I liked both the Vampire Counts and Ogre models and what they do. I decided on Ogres because I don't have to buy (and paint) 120+ zombies, and I think smashing some faces in sounds rather awesome.

But I do Have a few clarification questions.

I Think Golgfag Maneater sounds really awesome, except that He makes the maneater unit sound less cool. Does he really force a Maneater unit to take just the Vigilant and Stubborn rules? Or does he give those two in addition to the other two options from been there done that? If He forces Vigilant and Stubborn is he even worth using?

I've only played 40k before so the magic phase seems a bit strange to me, do you guys suggest running heavy in magic?

And I hear that ogres parts are fairly universal so you can mix and match parts to get new units out of other ones and that sounds pretty awesome. I found another post about stuff to buy and I think I will stick closely to that.

@Memnoch: one thing I'm sure of is you can only have 2 special rules at a time.

But I was wondering if Golgfag forces you to take Vanguard and Stubborn rules. I use the french AB and it's written that "you may" make the unit Golgfag's maneater (p.88) and that Golgfag often goes to war with his unit of veterans, that always use those rules (p.57).

I'd like to know if in the original english version of the AB it was clearer.

Golfag's Maneaters are completely optional.

You can take a normal unit of Maneaters and give them whatever you want, and then have Golfag deploy with them.

He will then, because of the FAQ saying that he IS a Maneater, get whatever special rules they picked. Note that it will NOT work with Scout. Because he must have the Scout rule to deploy as a Scout and he doesn't have the rule till he's actually deployed in the unit.

But he will gain all the other special rules just fine.

Frankly, he's not a bad choice and he can end up being an awsome one if he rolls high on magic items, but its not reliable enough. I just use his model as my Maneater Captain.

Thanks a lot! I planned on using him as my captain too, but now I know I can use him as a SC even without HIS maneaters.

Considering Golgfag takes up valuable hero points I'd leave him at home every day of the week. He IS cool but you can knock up a better character with normal magic items. You really want to save your Hero allowance for hero casters and the BSB as they are much MUCH more useful to an Ogre army. Ogre's seem to be one of those armies where the new army book's special characters are effectively glorified paperweights. The rules don't justify their costs or playability, unlike say Tomb Kings who have about 9 special chars of which about 4-6 are pretty damn awesome (Khalida or Arkhan for example) A lesson I learnt early on with Ogres is make your own characters and you will probably get a lot more out of them for the points spent plus it's more fun making your own in my opinion.

As a good place to start with Ogre's I'd grab 2 Battalions and a Hero of some description, probably Firebelly and/or Butcher. With the battalions you can make enough core for a 2.4k game and it's a fantastic place to start up the army, a combined total of up to or any combination of 12 Ogres, 12 Ironguts and 8 Leadbelchers. Leaddies could be made into Ogres or IG's though so it's really the best place to begin.

Hope this helps 

butcher would allow you to field it as a butcher or slaughtermaster since they share the same model

What is a BSB?

Battle Standard Bearer.

they're a special banner type that can be magic but doesnt have to be, The big thing is they allowed rerolls of leadership tests when withing like 12 inches of them or something like that.

More specifically, a Bruiser can be upgraded to be the Army's BSB at a cost listed in the Bruiser entry. He cannot be the General if this is done.

If he is upgraded the he can take a Magic Banner if you wish, if this is done he can't have any other magic items. Otherwise, he can take normal equipment.