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Whilst reading through the forums I came up with a thought I think could be quite an intresting discussion. With our Maneaters we have access to 2 out of roughly 8 or 9 universal rules to take on them for BTDT but there are a bunch of others that could prove really useful.
Here's my question... if you could take ANY 2 universal special rules for your Maneater unit which would you take and why? What sort of Maneater unit would you make with free reign over the special rules? Would you take Frenzy + Fly? Scouts + Skirmishers? Ethereal + Unbreakable? ASF + Flaming Attacks?
Personally I like the idea of skirmishing ME's, sort of like a sneaky commando unit or something along those lines but the possibilities are endless. What are your thoughts on this one?
Zolas16 Aug 2012
Frenzy maneaters with pistols, brace of pistols or additional hand weapons would be utterly scary! I mean 6 attacks each (7 for a maneater captain)! Just ouch! Combine this with ASF and you have a VERY overpowered unit.
Probably good that you can't this to be honest.
But saying this flying maneaters just scary! Ethereal maneaters good god!
Look forward to seeing what other combinations come up through this thread.
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T Bone16 Aug 2012
Random Movement (2D6), Random Attacks (D6) and see what happens.
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Bergelmir16 Aug 2012
I would love hatred Maneaters. I can never roll good the first time. Hatred + Killing Blow. The Head Biters!
Darkminion16 Aug 2012
I would love hatred Maneaters. I can never roll good the first time. Hatred + Killing Blow. The Head Biters!
Killing Blow? Screw that....Heroic Killing Blow I say!!
Yeah, I'd Give them Allways Strike First and Heroic Killing Blow....That would be amazing!
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Nihmwit16 Aug 2012
Terror would be a fun upgrade. "Hey Ogre, make a fear check or I'lz eatcha."
Ambushers. Oh, you prevented me from scouting? Too bad I don't care!!
Devastating Charge would be great. Devasting Charge with Frenzy, AHW, and an Ogre Charge? Good BYE!!
Regeneration!! Heck, I guess these would be considered devout Maneaters? "We'z da Troll-Eaterz!"
Thick/Scaly Skin!!! Maybe make that heavy armor upgrade worth something. Of course, Thick-Skin and Regeneration would just be stupid.... sigh....
Skirmishers An awesome way to protect your MEs while they hoof it across the field.
Access to any ONE of these rules would rock. The option to combine them with what we already have....
**edit: forgot one**
Daemonic!!!! Come on, ogres live up by the chaos wastes! Ward saves and magic attacks for everyone! w00t!!!
Darkminion17 Aug 2012
All those are good options, but just thought up the best and most deadly one for them: Ethereal
Damn, ethereal Maneaters, that would be something wouldn't it? Would at least give the lads at Warseer something to cry about for a long long while!
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thenick17 Aug 2012
Yeah i have to say i though Ethereal, and i would keep my poison on them too. dont need saves as not much will be able to wound them anyways and they already have alot of attacks...now alot of attacks that wound automatically whilst opponent has to focus as much magic on them as pos or get a character in...and i dont mind fighting characters with a bunch of poison brace of pistols man eaters nom nom nom
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MaanNaam17 Aug 2012
Frenzy + Hatred.
Run them with AHW and it gives your Champ 7 WS4 S5 attacks he can re-roll to hit... now that is a scary model.
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just-josh17 Aug 2012
I would have to say that Ethereal and Frenzy could be quite cool, or perhaps Ethereal and Regeneration... That would be fairly broken, but by God would it be fun to play!
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Quote from: Shadowlord on Mar 11, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
After all, painting 100 night goblins is something you do in the morning just before you are off to work.
And I think you missed a 0 when you wrote 11 armies. The correct nr should be 110 armies I would think, based on your painting speed.
MasteroDisaster17 Aug 2012
Terror would be a fun upgrade. "Hey Ogre, make a fear check or I'lz eatcha."
Ambushers. Oh, you prevented me from scouting? Too bad I don't care!!
Devastating Charge would be great. Devasting Charge with Frenzy, AHW, and an Ogre Charge? Good BYE!!
Regeneration!! Heck, I guess these would be considered devout Maneaters? "We'z da Troll-Eaterz!"
Thick/Scaly Skin!!! Maybe make that heavy armor upgrade worth something. Of course, Thick-Skin and Regeneration would just be stupid.... sigh....
Skirmishers An awesome way to protect your MEs while they hoof it across the field.
Access to any ONE of these rules would rock. The option to combine them with what we already have....
**edit: forgot one**
Daemonic!!!! Come on, ogres live up by the chaos wastes! Ward saves and magic attacks for everyone! w00t!!!
Haha this is exactly why I started up the this thread. If only.....
What about? "Come get us.... if you can!" Ethereal + Magic Res (3) + Lichebone Pennant on standard bearer = Lolz
just-josh17 Aug 2012
Terror would be a fun upgrade. "Hey Ogre, make a fear check or I'lz eatcha."
Ambushers. Oh, you prevented me from scouting? Too bad I don't care!!
Devastating Charge would be great. Devasting Charge with Frenzy, AHW, and an Ogre Charge? Good BYE!!
Regeneration!! Heck, I guess these would be considered devout Maneaters? "We'z da Troll-Eaterz!"
Thick/Scaly Skin!!! Maybe make that heavy armor upgrade worth something. Of course, Thick-Skin and Regeneration would just be stupid.... sigh....
Skirmishers An awesome way to protect your MEs while they hoof it across the field.
Access to any ONE of these rules would rock. The option to combine them with what we already have....
**edit: forgot one**
Daemonic!!!! Come on, ogres live up by the chaos wastes! Ward saves and magic attacks for everyone! w00t!!!
Haha this is exactly why I started up the this thread. If only.....
What about? "Come get us.... if you can!" Ethereal + Magic Res (3) + Lichebone Pennant on standard bearer = Lolz
That would be plain nasty!
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Quote from: Shadowlord on Mar 11, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
After all, painting 100 night goblins is something you do in the morning just before you are off to work.
And I think you missed a 0 when you wrote 11 armies. The correct nr should be 110 armies I would think, based on your painting speed.
Sazel17 Aug 2012
Well, on top of all those fun things, it would've been nice to give the Maneater Captain the option to have up a magic item worth up to 25 points, like some of the old army books used to have. HKB, Frenzy, and the Sword of Swift Slaying? Ha. Ha Ha Ha! lol
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Frost Jotun17 Aug 2012
Sea Creature and Stupidity. I wonder if that unit could make it across the board? Move or Fire and Slow to Fire. How many shots would they get to take in a game? Flammable and Large Target. Hello chaos dwarf warmachines.
But really... Thunderstomp and Breath Weapons (S10). Run them as wide as possible and just stomp and burn any unit to crisps.
grey templar17 Aug 2012
Devestating Charge, Frenzy, and Brace of Pistols. Hello 7 attacks each(on the charge)
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T Bone21 Aug 2012
I've changed my mind.
My army is wood elf themed, my maneaters are waywatchers. I'd stick with scout and have killing blow on their bows (ogre pistols).
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Flim Flam21 Aug 2012
Everyone gets a wizard hat (but only lv1), would be fun. I'd love fly/HKB, as it would be fun to seek out Bret lords on a pegasus, and have some vengeance.
T Bone22 Aug 2012
Everyone gets a wizard hat
Yes.
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Phazael22 Aug 2012
I am pretty damn happy with poison stubborn, but WS5 or ASF would not be bad.
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Nihmwit23 Aug 2012
Or, we could go vintage:
Cathayan Longswords: +10 points per model
Damn I miss that weapon. +1 WS, +1 Init, and armor piercing.... Sigh....
Steam Titan23 Aug 2012
I'd like to see leadbelcher as a weapon up grade for them. Or for bruisers/tyrants. Oh i would loooove to have a leadbelcher bruiser.
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Nihmwit23 Aug 2012
Someone mentioned in a different thread an option allowing leadbelchers to swap their cannons for harpoon launchers. Maybe not for the leadbelchers, but how about giving maneaters the option to equip harpoon launchers? Although combining THAT with poison and sniper would be...ewww....
MasteroDisaster23 Aug 2012
Someone mentioned in a different thread an option allowing leadbelchers to swap their cannons for harpoon launchers. Maybe not for the leadbelchers, but how about giving maneaters the option to equip harpoon launchers? Although combining THAT with poison and sniper would be...ewww....
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FUNkY-T23 Aug 2012
I'd like to see leadbelcher as a weapon up grade for them. Or for bruisers/tyrants. Oh i would loooove to have a leadbelcher bruiser.
That would be awesome!!
Eldritch27 Aug 2012
Does Ethereal come with Unstable now? If not, Ethereal and Unbreakable seems a bit unfair...
MasteroDisaster10 Sep 2012
Screw that.
I'm giving them Scaly Skin 1+ and Regen 3+
.... If only! And for those special rules how much would per model would you expect to pay?
Nihmwit10 Sep 2012
F*** Grey, why not just give them Terminator Armor and Storm Shields (I'd prefer a Lightning Claw to the Thunder Hammer though)?
grey templar11 Sep 2012
But we need to stay within this sytem
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grey templar11 Sep 2012
Screw that.
I'm giving them Scaly Skin 1+ and Regen 3+
.... If only! And for those special rules how much would per model would you expect to pay?
ummm, free?
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MasteroDisaster17 Sep 2012
Screw that.
I'm giving them Scaly Skin 1+ and Regen 3+
.... If only! And for those special rules how much would per model would you expect to pay?
ummm, free?
Haha yeah nice try! I'd be nice to see something like this but it's never gonna happen. Considering the options already actually available to ME's am I the only one that finds them a tad too pricey? Especially with the BoP, Poison + sniper build.
Nihmwit17 Sep 2012
I think the price is partially in reaction to how deadly they are to certain armies. Against armies that don't rely on their characters, they're overpriced. Against character-centric armies (Skaven, VC, TK, etc) they can be death incarnate.
Brainfreezer17 Sep 2012
Invinceability + 1 Hit kill entire unit Like a bous
Tmr818817 Sep 2012
Toughness 5 is all I would want. Fighting round the world they should be battle hardened terrors.
Brork Bonegut17 Sep 2012
ASF + Bloodgreed (Minotaur Frenzy)
Or let them be super leddies and give them dwarf artillery to fire on the move, and runes would be their special rules.
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Offswitch17 Sep 2012
All the marks of chaos!
Really? Is this really what we are talking about?
grey templar18 Sep 2012
All the marks of chaos!
Frenzy, always pass Panic, Fear, and Terror tests, -1WS and BS if attacking them, and +1 to ward save. not bad.
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MasteroDisaster18 Sep 2012
Yeah I'd also think T5 should be the done thing, they shoulda made ME's S4 and T5 if not 5 for both stats. It's a real shame as you said they are battle hardened veterans, they should be tough as old boots.
All the marks of chaos!
Frenzy, always pass Panic, Fear, and Terror tests, -1WS and BS if attacking them, and +1 to ward save. not bad.
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Nihmwit18 Sep 2012
I'm fine with the S5, T4, but DAMN how I wish I could have my Cathayan Longswords back. WS5, S5, I4, and armor piercing? Yes please! Now if only you could dual-wield them....
MasteroDisaster19 Sep 2012
I'm fine with the S5, T4, but DAMN how I wish I could have my Cathayan Longswords back. WS5, S5, I4, and armor piercing? Yes please! Now if only you could dual-wield them....
So you want all that and you STILL want the extra attack from an additional hand weapon.... just how rude do you want them to be?!
Actually I can answer that... the rudest!
Nihmwit19 Sep 2012
Ogres are expensive enough, especially Maneaters! Ain't no way I'm paying extra points for manners
thenick20 Sep 2012
i run a unit of ME's at the moment and love them as they are...only thing id like to see is the already mentioned toughness.
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Nihmwit20 Sep 2012
Oh, I'm fine with the stats. But I want shields. Or Ironfists. Or tower shields! Yes!! Big, Roman-style tower shields in one hand while wielding Cathayan Longswords in the other!!!
Sazel20 Sep 2012
Oh, I'm fine with the stats. But I want shields. Or Ironfists. Or tower shields! Yes!! Big, Roman-style tower shields in one hand while wielding Cathayan Longswords in the other!!!
How about Chaos Maneaters, with a speial "WYSIWYG" rule, but they can have as many weapons and shields as they want, so long as they have enough arms for it so, like, three ironfists (4+/4++parry), three Cathayan longswords (with 2 additional attacks), and then a brace of pistols coming outta the back, or something like that On TOP of their BTDT rules (or any of the awesome rules that have been shown in this thread lol)...
This is such an amusing thread lol
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Nihmwit20 Sep 2012
So, you're talking about the Ogre equivalent of Shiva, then?
Hmmm, Keepers of Secrets have 4 arms... A Slanneshi theme then... although, if it's Slannesh, might as well go with tentacles. It would be fun to convert, that would be sure.
Aegamaeous21 Sep 2012
Flying, and/or a mount option. Maybe bring back the rhinox mounts or find some new flying beastie.
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