the executor tribe

hey all you ogres and ... ogresses ?

i have decied to start my gnoblog even though unlike most tyrants on here i am a very bad painter and i have only ever played a few skirmishes with a few of my units and most of my army is unpainted but i have decided to start my gnoblog now so that i can look back in a few years time and see how much i have improvd so without further delay my (untested) ogre army

BRAGG THE GUTSMAN  210 (general)

TYRANT  210 + brace of ogre pistols 14 + 2 sword gnoblar & luck gnoblar 15 + gold sigil sword 15
armour of silvered steel 45 + dawnstone 25 + rockeye 5 + biting blade 10  341

SLAUGHTER MASTER  250 + 3 tooth gnoblars & luck gnoblar 40 + armour of destiny 50 + 2 dispel scrolls 50  393

BRUISER  105 + great weapon 11 + heavy armour 4 + battle standard 25 + gamblers armour 20 + talisman of endurance 30  195

HUNTER  130 + ironfist 4 + blood vulture 10 + stonehorn 250 + talisman of preservation 45 + ironcurse icon 5  444

HUNTER  130 + ironfist 4 + harpoon launcher 10 + warrior bane 5 + ruby ring 25 + longstrider 20  194

FIREBELLY  120 + great weapon 9 + lvl 2 35 + armour of fortune 35 + talisman of protection 15  214

bULLS  180 + crusher 10 + bellower 10 + standard 10 + lookout gnoblar 5 + ironfists 12  227

IRONGUTS  172 + gutlord 10 + standard 10 + lookout gnoblar 5 + rune maw 50  247

LEADBELCHERS  172 + thunderfist 10 + bellower 10  192

MANEATERS  200 + captain 10 + bellower 10 + standard 10 + lookout gnoblar 5 + rangers standard 50 + heavy armour 16 + additional handweapon 4
great weapon 22 + brace of ogre pistols 48  375

SABRETUSK PACK  042

GIANT  200

THUNDERTUSK  250

MOURNFANG CAVALRY  360 + crusher 10 + pistols 6 + musician 10 + standard 10 + drangonhide banner 50 + heavy armour 30 + iron fists 30  506

IRON BLASTER  170

SCRAP LAUNCHER  130

GORGER  180

YHETEES  132 + greyback 10  142

TOTAL PPM 3343  TOTAL PPM + items 4652

as you can see it still needs abit of work and i need alot more core troops but if there is anything you would add or change please feel free to tell me as like i said before i am quite new to this so any advice from a few veterans is more than welcome. here are a few pics of one or two models to show you the basic colour scheme for my army which is black clothing (like the executors of old used to wear hence the tribe name)  they arent great quality pics which is why i have only put a few on so next time i will get a better quality camera, i just wonna say thanks in advance for any advice given 

ALL HAIL THE GREAT MAW ! 

all them numbers make no sense to me, am not realy a gamer-good luck on tyhe painting, if you have any questions give me a bell or want to know any short cuts

sorry about the numbers i copy and pasted it after i wrote it somewhere else but the number after the name of the unit is the PPM (points per model) then the numbers after the item names are the costs of each individual item and the large number at the end is the overall cost of the unit, sorry for any confusion

Hey,

I'll start with recommending getting one of the common tools for army calculation - ArmyBuilder, or if you fancy German stuff (don't worry, it's still in English) Lamekh's Online Codex (http://www.onlinecodex.de/forum/download.page.html)

It makes it more enjoyable for us to read and saves you alot of time!

Now, on the actual post:
- Bragg is not allowed to be the general if you take a tyrant, because the Tyrant has a higher Ld and therefore needs to be the general.
- Sword & Luck Gnoblars do no longer exist ( ), same for the Tooth Gnoblars on the Slaughtermaster
- You cannot use 2 Magical Weapons on the Tyrant, it is either Biting Blade or Gold Sigil Blade
- If you give your Bruiser Magical Armour, you can save the points for the mundane heavy armour, since it is "overwritten".
- The hunter have to choose between Ironfist and Blood Vulture/Harpoon Launcher, they cannot have both
- The Firebelly cannot take Magical Armour, therefore the Armour of Fortune isn't allowed. On another note, Ward saves do not stack, so giving both Armour of Fortune and Talisman of Protection doesn't give you any advantage.
- The Maneaters may only have a single weapon, so you have to choose between Additional Handweapons/Great Weapons and Brace of Ogre Pistols. Ogre Pistols also count as additional Handweapon, so there is no need to give them both (if it would be possible).


On actual models: You already have a nice army of Ogres, but you are right that more Core Ogres would help! If you add another battalion, you should be fine: 16 Ogre models can never hurt!   

I hope I didn't sound like a lifeless bastard (I spend to much time of Warseer and I'm no native English speaker), I'm sorry if that was the case. Many things you will learn the more you play, so I hope you take it as the advice I meant it to be! 

haha thanks like i said im still new to this so that was very helpful but on the maneaters im referring to each maneater having a different set of weaons which is allowed right ? it says in the army book in brackets (different models may have different weapons) you were right abut the brace of pistols

Jep, every Maneater can carry a different weapon. Good to know I'm a bit helpful. At least once...

by the way i followed your advice on the army builder and i had a look at it but i refuse to pay for it so i had  a look around and found a completely free one ! and its so helpfull i have now sorted it out ... i think anyway here goes ... my new (untested)ogre army

Current Army

Point Total: 4595



-= Units =-

Ogre Tyrant (general)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   210 6 6 4 5 5 5 4 5 9
Ogre Charge, Fear
14 » Brace of Ogre Pistols
25 » Sword of Swift Slaying
45 » Armour of Silvered Steel
25 » Dawnstone
15 » "The Bawlerguts"

 
Slaughtermaster
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   250 6 4 3 4 5 5 3 4 8
Fear, Ogre Charge, Immune to Poison
03 » Ironfist
35 » Level 4 Wizard
25 » Shield of Ptolos
45 » Talisman of Preservation
25 » Dispel Scroll
05 » Enchanted Shield
 
 
Bragg the Gutsman
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   210 6 5 3 5(6) 5 4 3 4 8
Fear, Ogre Charge
 

Bruiser
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   105 6 5 3 5 5 4 3 4 8
Fear, Ogre Charge
25 » Battle Standard Bearer
06 » Ogre Pistol
04 » Ironfist
20 » Gambler's Armour
10 » Dragonhelm
05 » Rock Eye
15 » Gold Sigil Sword
 
 
Hunter
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   130 6 5 4 5 5 4 3 4 9
Fear, Loner, Ogre Charge
 
» Stonehorn
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   250 7 3 0 6 6 6 2 5 5
Beast Rider, Earth-shattering Charge, Frenzy, Hunting Beast, Large Target, Natural Armour (4+), Stone Skeleton, Terror
04 » Ironfist
10 » Blood Vulture
05 » Ironcurse Icon
15 » Obsidian Trinket
30 » Talisman of Endurance
 
 
Hunter
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   130 6 5 4 5 5 4 3 4 9
Fear, Loner, Ogre Charge
04 » Ironfist
10 » Harpoon Launcher
25 » Ruby Ring of Ruin
05 » Warrior Bane
20 » "The Longstrider"
 
 
Firebelly
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   120 6 3 2 4 5 4 2 3 7
Blessings of the Volcano God, Fear, Fire Breath, Flaming Attacks, Ogre Charge
09 » Great Weapon
35 » Level 2 Wizard
10 » Biting Blade
15 » Talisman of Protection
10 » Seed of Rebirth
15 » Channelling Staff
 
 
Ogre (6)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   180 6 3 2 4 4 3 2 3 7
Fear, Ogre Charge
10 » Crusher
20 » Bellower
20 » Standard Bearer
12 » Ironfist
 
 
Irongut (4)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   172 6 3 2 4 4 3 2 4 8
Fear, Ogre Charge
10 » Gutlord
10 » Bellower
10 » Standard Bearer
45 » Razor Standard
05 » Gleaming Pennant
 
 
Leadbelcher (4)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   172 6 3 3 4 4 3 2 3 7
Fear, Ogre Charge
10 » Thunderfist
10 » Bellower
 
 
Maneater (4)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   200 6 4 4 5 4 3 3 4 8
Been There, Done That, Fear, Ogre Charge, Motley Crew
10 » Captain
10 » Bellower
10 » Standard Bearer
16 » Heavy Armour (4)
40 » Brace of Ogre Pistols (4)
50 » Ranger's Banner
 
 
Sabretusk Pack (2)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
    42 8 4 0 4 4 2 4 3 4
Fear, Running With The Pack, Their Master's Voice
 

Yhetee (3)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   132 7 3 0 5 4 3 4 3 7
Aura of Frost, Fear, Flammable, Swiftstride
10 » Greyback
 
 
» Mournfang (6)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   360 8 3 0 5 4 3 2 4 5
fear, impact hits (D3), thick-skinned
10 » Crusher
06 » » Brace of Ogre Pistols
10 » Bellower
10 » Standard Bearer
30 » Heavy Armour
30 » Ironfist
50 » Dragonhide Banner
 
 
Gorger (2)
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   180 6 3 0 5 5 4 2 4 8
Ambushers, Fear, Frenzy, Killing Blow, Unbreakable
 

Gnoblar Scraplauncher
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   130 - - - 5 5 5 - - -
Fear, Large Target
» Gnoblar Scrapper
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
     0 - 2 3 2 - - 3 1 5
» Rhinox
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
     0 6 3 - 5 - - 2 3 -
 
 
Ironblaster
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   170 - - - 5 6 5 - - -
Fear, Large Target
» Leadbelcher
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
     0 - 3 3 4 - - 2 3 7
Fear, Ogre Charge
» Gnoblar Scrapper
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
     0 - 2 3 2 - - 3 1 5
» Rhinox
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
     0 6 3 - 5 - - 2 3 -
 
 
Giant
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   200 6 3 3 6 5 6 3 - 10
Fall Over, Giant Special Attacks, Large Target, Stubborn, Terror
 
Thundertusk
Points M WS BS S T W I A Ld
   250 6 3 0 6 6 6 2 4 5
Beast Rider, Large Target, Natural Armour (5+), Numbing Chill, Smooth Ride, Sphere of Frost-wreathed Ice, Terror


there it is my updated army list with help from all the people who have kindly shown me where i was going wrong and i thank you for all for that if there is anything else you can see that needs changing please tell me and if this isnt clear then ill try a different army builder haha thanks again guys

ALL HAIL THE GREAT MAW !

The list looks pretty good, but you'll probably need to edit out the points costs, and stats really quick! Or GW will be all over it.

why ? ive seen stats and points for models and items all over the internet i dont see why it is a problem ?

why ? ive seen stats and points for models and items all over the internet i dont see why it is a problem ?

because here we avoid doing it.

If you remove all individual points costs, and make the list legible, it would be easier to give you an opinion. 

I wouldn't use Bragg in any list, but his model is awesome and could be used as a BSB or Death SM instead.
Your SM can't have 2 magical sheilds (you may only have 1 magic item from each category).
Your Bruiser also has 2 magical armours.
Your Firebelly has 2 talismans.
Your Ironguts have 2 magical standards
Brawlerguts isn't that great, perhaps replace that with something more useful.
Ranger's Standard on your Maneaters could be replaced with something more useful.
It doesn't look like your army has 25% core, and the units look very small for such a huge army.

i know in the first post i did say i need more core troops and i am awear that you cant have 2 magic items from the same category but i only ever play with friends never competitavly and we decided that that was a stupid rule and we would not use it as playing warhammer is about enjoying the game and we enjoy it without that rule

@ Groggy: haha thankyou for saying so , that ironblaster is currently my favourite model in my army , my pride and joy centre piece which unfortunately is usually the first thing to die to cannon fire -.- they never go for the unpainted , unconverted one , they always shoot at my shiny one 

@ G_H picking up speed on getting the diorama done and its less  centred around the warhammer universe and rules and more on just making the whole thing look awesome in time for my mates birthday hence the models not looking as they would in a unit :3 my yhetti will get painted as soon as his backside is done and you will be happy to know that the custom casters are well on their way to being almost painted !

TO-DO LIST

1) build and glue down the rest of the models (some in hand to hand combat)

2) base the whole thing with sand and grass and paint that [almost there]

3) either glue wood around the edge or more of the craft foam to cover the foamboard underneath [havnt yet decided ... any ideas ?]

4) paint all of the models on the diorama [need to make a start on that soon]

5) create a plaque for the front of the piece [need to decided on a design and material for this]

6) green stuff a bum for the yhetti king [need to get my hadnt on some green stuff first]

7) paint the rest of the custom casters aswell as fix a few of them [2 fully painted (heavens and fire belly) , heavens has been rejigged and fixed to make his hammer look less strange and to make him more magic looking , death butcher is half painted , maw butcher is half painted , beast butcher needs to get his first coat of paint]

8} take lots of pictures whilst im doing the above and post updates abit more often [seems to be going well , ill post the pictures up asap once i can find the damn cable for it ... now where did i put that .......]



i decided im going to put my to-do list at the end of every post just to help me keep track of what needs doing and to help me from starting new projects when old ones need finishing as always thanks for having a look at my humble gnoblog , any cirtisisms/thoughts/feelings/reactions are ALWAYS welcome 

T~Executor