3000 pt double SM list

Thinking of building this list and giving it a go. I think that it has some potential. I know that Rune Maw and Hellheart are important items but I think that I can handle it without them. Anyways, have a look and critique.


Slaughtermaster (1#, 375 pts) Lore of the Maw
   1 Slaughtermaster, 295 pts = (base cost 250 + Level 4 Upgrade 35 + Great Weapon 10)
      1 Talisman of Preservation, 45 pts
      1 Crown of Command, 35 pts

This SM goes with my IG's. buffs them as needed.

Slaughtermaster (1#, 350 pts) Lore of the Heavens
   1 Slaughtermaster, 295 pts = (base cost 250 + Level 4 Upgrade 35 + Great Weapon 10)
      1 Dispel Scroll, 25 pts
      1 Talisman of Endurance, 30 pts

This SM will hang with my LB's and assist their shooting.

Bruiser (1#, 191 pts)
   1 Bruiser (Battle Standard Bearer), 141 pts = (base cost 105 + Great Weapon 11 + Battle Standard Bearer 25)
      1 Armour of Destiny, 50 pts

He will go with the IG's and SM.

Ironguts (16#, 758 pts)
   16 Ironguts, 708 pts = 16 * 43 (base cost 43) + Bellower Mus 10 + Standard Bearer Std 10
      1 Dragonhide Banner, 50 pts

Leadbelchers (5#, 225 pts)
   5 Leadbelchers, 225 pts = 5 * 43 (base cost 43) + Bellower Mus 10

Ogres (9#, 308 pts)
   9 Ogres, 308 pts = 9 * 32 (base cost 30 + Ironfist 2) + Bellower Mus 10 + Standard Bearer Std 10

Depending on how this list works, I may make this unit into LB's as well

Gnoblars (30#, 110 pts)
   30 Gnoblar, 110 pts = 30 * 2.5 (base cost 2.5) + Musician Mus 10 + Gnoblar Trappers 25

Speedbump and redirectors

Sabertusks (1#, 21 pts)
   1 Sabretusks, 21 pts

Sabertusks (1#, 21 pts)
   1 Sabretusks, 21 pts

Sabertusks (1#, 21 pts)
   1 Sabretusks, 21 pts

More redirectors/extra drops

Stonehorn (2#, 250 pts)
   1 Stonehorn, 250 pts

will run him alongside the IG.

Ironblaster (3#, 170 pts)
   1 Ironblaster, 170 pts

Giant (1#, 200 pts)
   1 Giant, 200 pts

He is in the list until I can get another Iron blaster which will in turn also free up 30 extra points for something else. Also, can't complain too much as he is stubborn.

Hi, hope this does not count as threadomancy..... if so, my bad!

I'm a fan of the idea of having 2 SMs. I posted a list which tried to get all the spells for LOTGM and Death:
http://www.ogrestronghold.com/forum/index.php?topic=25298.0

I've decided against Death and choose to stick to LOTGM and Firebellies instead for now. Please feel free to post any comments on the following list:

Lords (725pts)
L4 Maw Slaughtermaster (375pts)
General, Great Weapon, Crown of Command, Dragonhelm, Forbidden Rod

L4 Maw Slaughtermaster (350pts)
Great Weapon, Grut's Sickle, Dragonbane Gem

Heroes (561pts)
Bruiser BSB (158pts)
HA, IF, Look-out Gnoblar, Standard of Discipline

L2 Firebelly (179pts)
Great weapon, Hellheart

L2 Firebelly (154pts)
Great weapon, Dispel Scroll

Core (768pts)
19 x Ogres Full Command + IFs (638pts)
All Characters go here. BSB in 2nd rank, to form a 6 x 4 Horde

12 x Gnoblars (30pts)
10 x Gnoblars (25pts)
10 x Gnoblars (25pts)
10 x Gnoblars (25pts)
10 x Gnoblars (25pts)

Special (266pts)
2 x Mournfang Cavalry + HA + IFs (140pts)

1 x Sabretusk (21pts)
1 x Sabretusk (21pts)
1 x Sabretusk (21pts)
1 x Sabretusk (21pts)
1 x Sabretusk (21pts)
1 x Sabretusk (21pts)

Rare (680pts)
1 x Ironblaster (170pts)
1 x Ironblaster (170pts)
1 x Ironblaster (170pts)
1 x Ironblaster (170pts)

Total 3000 pts

I'm not a WAAC player but I think this is very competitive! 4 IBs is not going to win me any friends but I wanted to max out the duplicate choices for Rare and Special units!

Da Plan
Use the SMs to spam bubbled Trollguts and Toothcracker every turn.
Use the FBs to breath fire and if any powerdice are left to cast the fireball spell each turn.
Use the SMs and FBs to create a T5 wall at the front of the horde.
BSB to "hide" in the second rank.
Sabretusks to act as redirectors and hunt warmachines.
1 unit of Gnoblars behind each IB and the horde to prevent any rear charges from flying monsters.
IBs to focus on shooting any flying monsters from far and any hordes.

I can spot two weaknesses:
(1)  "Mindrazored" Horde of DE Witches with a flaming banner will destroy the horde, if they charge.
IBs could be used to whittle any units down with a grape shot (average of 5 hits per shot?)
(2) Purple Sun - one dispell scroll and HH should help dispelling this from being cast.

@Badmarsh - Dude, that is blatant threadomancy 

@Tusk Hunter
- That's a LOT of gnoblars in one pot. They better be close to ur general otherwise they'll still be running after just 1 round of combat. I'd switch back to the 10 gnoblar speedbump and spend ur points elsewhere.
- 2 two SM does sound a funky idea that I've not been brave enough to try just yet. (I'm unlucky/unskilled with magic) How do u intend to use Heavens?
- I've been hurt too much by Initiative targeting magic to ever risk a horde, so hope that works well for u.
- I know ur waiting for another IB, but do be careful with giant deployment, make sure he's miles away from massed ranged shots. They die sooo quickly to simple bowfire and can get slapped b4 they can swing due to low initiative if already weakened. If they get to combat with at least 4 wounds though    loving it