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List will be edited in when I'm finished with it. ^^'
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Ghunter12 Jan 2012
Hey!
No problem for the delay, I've been pretty busy too. Terrain is OK. Do we treat woods as mystery or everything is standard terrain?
I have to pick up my list as well too. I'll post more things this evening when at home.
I'm really glad to play Empire but I don't know a damn thing about this army (except maybe one or two things about a STank ) so please excuse me in advance if I ask lots of things.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius12 Jan 2012
I don't really mind playing with mysterious terrain, though either way is fine.
Ask as many questions as you want. I'll do my best to answer them. Sadly you won't have to chance of using your knowledge as I most probably won't be using a steam tank.
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Ghunter12 Jan 2012
OK let's say woods are mysterious! Is this one BIG hill on the right side? There are fences on top-left corner and regular building on left side?
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius12 Jan 2012
Yup, fences, buildings and a massive cluster of hills.
Tbh, the only real reason for putting down the top-left fence was because it looked so empty over there. I fear that it will have minimal effect on the game.
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Ghunter16 Jan 2012
Quick word to say I'm finishing up my list an will be ready soon.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Ghunter24 Jan 2012
Finally able to finish my list:
Lord Slaughtermaster Lvl4, Ironcurse Icon, Dispell Scroll, Talisman of Endurance, Fencer's Blades
Heroes BSB w/ Heavy Armor, Ironfist, Talisman of preservation
Base 6 Ogres w/ Ironfists Bellower, Standard Bearer 6 Ogres w/ Ironfists Bellower, Standard Bearer 6 Ironguts Bellower, Standard Bearer, LO Gnoblar, Standard of Discipline 22 Gnoblars
Special Sabretusk Sabretusk Sabretusk 3Mournfang w/ Ironfists, Heavy Armor Bellower, Standard Bearer, Dragonhide Banner 4 Maneaters w/ Heavy Armor, Brace of Handguns Bellower, Captain 3 Yhettees
Rare Stonehorn Ironblaster
If I'm correct, that's 2499 points. I'll edit it in Battle Chronicler and post the file when ready.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius03 Feb 2012
Better late than never...
Inspired by the Empire that whooped my rear in the tourney. Minus a cannon and some added toys. ^^
Archlector, Warshrine, Great Weapon, Armour of Meteoric Iron, Specculum Wizard Lord, lv4, Shadow, Rod of Power
Engineer Warrior Priest, Great Weapon, Heavy Armor Wizard, lv2, Death, Scroll BSB, Charmed Shield, Full Plate Captain, Pegasus, Lance, Shield, Helm of the Dragonslayer, Full Plate Captain, Pegasus, Lance, Enchanted Shield, Full Plate
39 Halberdiers, Full Command *5 Free Company *5 Swordsmen 39 Halberdiers, Full Command *5 Free Company *5 Swordsmen 38 Halberdiers, Full Command *5 Free Company *5 Swordsmen
Ouch, I don't know Empire at all, but 3 Hordes, 2 Heroes on Pegasus and 4 War machines seems harsh to me!
I set up my list in Army Builder but I can't add it to the scenario... I'll post the file when I managed that part... Or if you can add yours before, feel free to upload the update. I have a FTP server and made an account for the Stronghold, it'll be esier and faster than uploading.com.
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius05 Feb 2012
I can't say it's a nice list, no. The worst thing is that the original list that this is based on was even worse...it wasn't really a suprise that it took best general in a tournament with pretty harsh restrictions.
At least the TO promised that Empire would be judged harder next time.
I'm going to write up a summary of the special rules of everything and PM it to you. Hopefully I can get the FTP-thingie fixed ASAP and we can get started.
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Ghunter05 Feb 2012
Finally managed to put my units in the list. Try and get the xml file from the FTP. If you can't, let me know and I'll send it to you.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius05 Feb 2012
I seem to have gotten in just fine now. I don't see any xml file though. Only two folders (Gnoblog and Mastauroc) filled with pictures.
However, I'm half-blind so I might be missing something.
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Ghunter05 Feb 2012
What you see is the anonymous part of my server. Do you acces it via a web-browser? If so check the URL: ftp://stronghold@bjauny.dlinkddns.com
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius05 Feb 2012
I've actually used exactly that link (after much searching and trying. ), however, once I get past the "insert password" part I get an error:
"530: Please tell me who you are"
I can't get further than that.
Oh, and I've tried both with a browser (two kinds even) and as well as FTP-commander (the freeware version) In that case it's the same deal. Go in anonymous=see those two folders. Go in "properly"= Error 530
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Ghunter05 Feb 2012
Strange, but I did get the same message... I have fixed this, so you can now see a "Warhammer Battle" folder.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius05 Feb 2012
Perfect, can see it fine now.
Will get it, get my units in there and get it back up ASAP
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Ghunter05 Feb 2012
Great!
Sleep time here, I'll be back online ASAP.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius06 Feb 2012
Tried sending the xml-file (cheeseeaters vs. ghunter) over to the server. Hopefully you can get it. It looks like I managed to forget my password for the dicelog. I will try a few of my old ones and see if I can get in. Otherwise I'll just send another PM with another mail-adress.
EDIT: Nevermind, got it fixed.
Sorry for the trouble
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Ghunter06 Feb 2012
Before deployment:
Rolling my Lore of the Great Maw spells, 4D6
1d6 1: 4 2: 5 3: 2 4: 2
So that's Bullgorger, Braingobbler, Trollguts and I'll chose Toothcracker for the double. That just unlocked me an achievment, yay!
I assume we make a standard Battle Line scenario and roll for my deployment, with a re-roll if needed:
1d6 1: 3 2: 6
I succesfully get the file, server is up and running
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius06 Feb 2012
Great. Normal vp/battleline is fine by me.
Grats on the achievement. (Buff-bot one, right? )
Spells for the lv2
1d6 1: 3 2: 3
Soulblight. Swapping one for the suuuuun.
Spells for the lv4
1d6 1: 4 2: 5 3: 3 4: 2
So, Enfeebling foe, The withering, Pendulum and Pit of shades. No mindrazor. Swapping pendulum for the sig spell (Miasma).
Deployment
1d6 1: 6 2: 1
I'll snag first and will deploy the first unit shortly.
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Oscarius06 Feb 2012
Pistolieros down (and uploaded to the server ofc. ^^).
Do you want us to post pics for the deployment or just make it quick and ignore that?
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Ghunter07 Feb 2012
We can post the final picture when deployment is done, it'll be less spammy
Can I suggest that we use only the "Oscarius vs Ghunter" file? Battle Chronicler allow to revert any move, so we won't lose anything. I saved my first drop (Sabretusk) in this file.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius07 Feb 2012
Of course we can use the same file. I'll stop spamming your server with unnecessary things.
One (hopefully very scary) block of troops down.
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Ghunter07 Feb 2012
Guess what? Here's another Sabretusk!
I'm really curious of how you're gonna deploy.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius10 Feb 2012
Guess what?
Another horde.
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Ghunter10 Feb 2012
And here comes the last Sabretusk!
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius10 Feb 2012
Nu suprises....last horde.
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Ghunter10 Feb 2012
Gnoblars down. I'm kind of outnumbered, uh?
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius10 Feb 2012
Meh, it's just S/T3 infantry. Your mournfangs will have a field day... If they can get there that is.
Some more pistols.
I'm going to make the assumption that hills block LoS, while forests and friendly units normally don't. If you disagree, say so.
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Ghunter11 Feb 2012
Completely agree on this, that would cancel most questions.
Ogres down.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius11 Feb 2012
Good good.
Ze artillery has entered the field.
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Ghunter11 Feb 2012
2nd Ogres down.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius14 Feb 2012
Characters down. All yours.
Want my vanguard though.
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Ghunter14 Feb 2012
Aww, just noticed I didn't tell you may Maneaters BTDT rules... I take Stubborn and Sniper. Here are my rolls for first turn :
First turn roll, with the reroll:
1d6 1: 3 2: 6
EDIT: I'll let you post the deployment picture after your Vanguard.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius15 Feb 2012
Some shuffling around. Also dropped down my forgotten engineer in the middle of the warmachines. (3" from two of them)
First turn:
1d6 +1 1: 4 + 1 = 5 2: 3 + 1 = 4
I'll be taking first turn. ^^
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
Now, now, serious things are going to start...
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius15 Feb 2012
I don't know if rushing forward is the best course of action against ogres, but it's worth a shot.
Magic time!
Winds
2d6 5 + 3 = 8
Channeling
1d6 = 6 1: 2 ... failure 2: 2 ... failure
I'll be waiting for your channel then I'll start the magic carnage. (hopefully)
Oh, and you might note that I increased the size of your Guts die to the characters in there.
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
Yes, thank you for the Guts.
Chanelling failed, there you go!
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius15 Feb 2012
Hmm...looks like I'm out of range of the bulls. No pit on them.
On the other hand we can cast that on the Blaster:
4d6 +4 2 + 3 + 1 + 4 + 4 = 14
Barely made it.
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
Crap, I tried to dispell with 3 dice :
Dipell attempt
3d6 +4 >= 14 1 + 4 + 3 + 4 = 12 ... failure
Can you remind me the nasty effects of PoS? I'm at work right now.
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
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Oscarius15 Feb 2012
Shatters 6", extreme miss.
Next...Archlector altar casts banishment on the ogres.
2d6 >= 5 1 + 2 = 3 ... failure
Uhhm...ward save for the wizard lord?
1d6 >= 3 1 ... failure
Nope. .)
Saving the last two dice. Quick break, but I'll get on to shooting soon enough.
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
May I ask some details about the banishment thing? A failure hits the Wizard?
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
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Oscarius15 Feb 2012
Nah, it's like normal. It just fizzles.
(Magic missile, 2d6 s4 hits, re-roll wards)
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
Uhhm...ward save for the wizard lord?
1d6 >= 3 1 ... failure
So what did you try to save?
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius15 Feb 2012
Ah, no that was the prayer spell from the Lector (4+ ward, RiP).
The lordie doesn't even have ward save atm.
Shooting:
Cannon #2 blows him self up, even with the engineer re-roll.
The second one:
Cannon #1 will try the same feat. (10" from the IB rear, 8-10 total to hit)
1d6 <= 5 3 ... success
6" overshot, bounce
1d6 <= 5 3 ... success
Hits, wounds on 2+
1d6 >= 2 6 ... success
Aaaand, d6 wounds
1d6 >= 5 6 ... success
So traded one cannon for an ironblaster.
Will have to decide on mortar targets then I'll roll them too.
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
Ouch... I need a panic check here! I assume, Gnoblars, Ogres1 and Stonehorn are in the 6" bubble (can't check precisely for O1 and S4). For the same reasons, I'll assume that the Stonehorn is in the 12" bubble for General Ld/BSB reroll. Gnoblars are clearly not.
Panic check for Gnoblars...
2d6 <= 5 5 + 4 = 9 ... failure
Panic check for Ogres 1, with reroll
2d6 <= 9 3 + 1 = 4 ... success
Panic check for Stonehorn, with reroll
2d6 <= 9 4 + 4 = 8 ... success
Fleeing distance for Gnoblars (cowards!)
2d6 2 + 6 = 8
So the mighty Gnoblars flee 8".
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius15 Feb 2012
I don't think you need to take any panic test for the stonehorn. IIRC it has frenzy.
Mortar #1 Long long shot at the maneaters. The closest model. 44". ^^
Hit the left most front gut in the head, splashing the BSB, Slaughtermaster and another gut with shrapnel. First one wound on 2+, second and third on 6+ if you fail LoS.
LoS for BSB and Slaughtermaster (in this order) 2d6 > 1 6 + 1 = 7 ... success
Really really really messed up the angle there. However, seeing as the Slaughtermaster failed his LoS and took the 5, not wounding him...
No wounds. Let's just disregard that shot.
Anyways, 2 wounds at -1 on the ME, then it's all yours.
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
I was kind of afraid of this phase... Well, I lost my Ironblaster...
2 saves at 6+ for the Maneaters
1d6 >= 6 1: 1 ... failure 2: 1 ... failure
I need to change these armors... 2 wounds taken!
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
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Oscarius15 Feb 2012
File uploaded.
Well, imagine this phase...but with another cannon and another engineer. It isn't pretty.
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
Yes, yes... Can I ask you to add wounds markers on the units? It'll be easier to keep track of them. IIRC there is also a "Fleeing" status for units that show their movement arrows in red or something like that.
May I suggest to do my turn later? I don't have BC, nor my books at work (!) so I won't be able to play correctly...
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 11:22:35 AM
The only real limit on the effectiveness of gnoblars is the owner's tolerance for painting so many of them.
Oscarius15 Feb 2012
No worries, I can upload it properly. No need to hurry with the turn. I'm at school myself...I really should hit the mathbooks soon.
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Ghunter15 Feb 2012
I just noticed it was my box ticked for first turn, that kind of mixed up the whole thing... Anyway, we'll keep that in mind!
Let's begin with a rally test... Fail! Gnoblars go straight forward 5" and out of the table.
The forest is haunted!
I didn't dare a charge...
Here's the movement phase map:
Magic winds
2d6 2 + 6 = 8
Channeling
1d6 = 6 1 ... failure
As for magic, I'll keep it simple: extended Trollguts with 6 dice!
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