21 Oct 2011
Here's a list I plan to use in a Challenge against a Bretonnian player. The rules of the Challenge is that we'll play 6 games using the 6 scenarios of the BRB and see who'll win. In it's a draw 3-3, a 7th game will be played on a random scenario (but each player can discard one scenario of the list beforehand).
So here's the list :
2 Lords: 655 Pts. 21.8%
3 Heroes: 743 Pts. 24.7%
3 Core Units: 920 Pts. 30.6%
5 Elite Units: 679 Pts. 22.6%
0 Rare Unit
Tyrant, General, Ironfist, Giantbreaker, Sword of Striking, The ohter Trickster's Shard, Armour of Fortune - 305 Pts.
Slaughtermaster, lvl4, Talisman of Protection, Hellheart, Lore of The Great Maw - 350 Pts.
Firebelly, Scroll, Lore of Fire - 145 Pts.
Bruiser, Ironfist, HA, Crown of Command, Dragonhelm, BSB - 183 Pts.
Hunter, Stonehorn, Sword of Anti-Heroes, Charmed Shield - 415 Pts.
10 Ogres, Handweapon & Ironfist, Lookout Gnoblar, M, S, C - 355 Pts.
10 Ironguts, M, S, C, Lookout Gnoblar - 465 Pts.
20 Gnoblars, M, S, C, Gnoblar Trappers - 100 Pts.
4 Leadbelchers, M - 182 Pts.
1 Sabretusks - 21 Pts.
1 Sabretusks - 21 Pts.
6 Maneaters, HA, 3 x 2xHw, Scouts, Stubborn, M, S, C, Gleaming Pennant - 365 Pts.
1 Gorger - 90 Pts.
Total: 2997
I take a lot of point into heroes because against Bretonnia, I think I'll both their resistance and hitting power.
The Tyrant will open up (hopefully) their armours with 5 S6 attacks mostly hitting on 2's and forcing them to reroll their ward saves. With a 4+/5++, he should be resilient enough.
The SM will use the hellheart deep into the battles as my opponent as a tendancy to run his mages inside his units of knights, and miscasts will grant me free kills on many occasions. Almost all Gut Magic Spells are premium against Bretonnia, so I don't think I'll be using the boosted Trollguts that much.
Heroes, it's pretty standard but the Stonehorn. I will give him a try, as he seems to be pretty okay against this army specifically. S6 hits will hurt him, and they almost have at least one character in each unit, so my Hunter will also lay down at least 5A S6.
Base, I take my usual blocks but raise a bit the number of Ironguts I normally use (I usually go with 8+one character). I need those S6 attacks. Probably Tyrant + FB in Ironguts (hammer), BSB+SM in Ogres (anvil). The Gnoblars are there for the Watchtower and for Blood and Glory, and synergise well with Leadies.
Specials, some Leadies will give me some shooting, S4 piercing is the bane of Bretonnian knights. A good pack of Scouting and Stubborn Maneaters will have the role to force him to split his army to take care of them. The S5 attacks should hurt them. I'll use a Gorger to handle the probable Trebuchet or Mage Bunker, and otherwise S5, Killing Blow and Unbreakable should even give some nice support to Maneaters if necessary.
I purposedly don't take any Mournfang because I think my opponent will overreact to them while building his list. He's also very mobile which will give me a much harder time to get the necessary charge, and if he doesn't take infantry it will also decrease their potential.
Any thoughts ? The only think I fear to miss is an Ironblaster ...
So here's the list :
2 Lords: 655 Pts. 21.8%
3 Heroes: 743 Pts. 24.7%
3 Core Units: 920 Pts. 30.6%
5 Elite Units: 679 Pts. 22.6%
0 Rare Unit
Tyrant, General, Ironfist, Giantbreaker, Sword of Striking, The ohter Trickster's Shard, Armour of Fortune - 305 Pts.
Slaughtermaster, lvl4, Talisman of Protection, Hellheart, Lore of The Great Maw - 350 Pts.
Firebelly, Scroll, Lore of Fire - 145 Pts.
Bruiser, Ironfist, HA, Crown of Command, Dragonhelm, BSB - 183 Pts.
Hunter, Stonehorn, Sword of Anti-Heroes, Charmed Shield - 415 Pts.
10 Ogres, Handweapon & Ironfist, Lookout Gnoblar, M, S, C - 355 Pts.
10 Ironguts, M, S, C, Lookout Gnoblar - 465 Pts.
20 Gnoblars, M, S, C, Gnoblar Trappers - 100 Pts.
4 Leadbelchers, M - 182 Pts.
1 Sabretusks - 21 Pts.
1 Sabretusks - 21 Pts.
6 Maneaters, HA, 3 x 2xHw, Scouts, Stubborn, M, S, C, Gleaming Pennant - 365 Pts.
1 Gorger - 90 Pts.
Total: 2997
I take a lot of point into heroes because against Bretonnia, I think I'll both their resistance and hitting power.
The Tyrant will open up (hopefully) their armours with 5 S6 attacks mostly hitting on 2's and forcing them to reroll their ward saves. With a 4+/5++, he should be resilient enough.
The SM will use the hellheart deep into the battles as my opponent as a tendancy to run his mages inside his units of knights, and miscasts will grant me free kills on many occasions. Almost all Gut Magic Spells are premium against Bretonnia, so I don't think I'll be using the boosted Trollguts that much.
Heroes, it's pretty standard but the Stonehorn. I will give him a try, as he seems to be pretty okay against this army specifically. S6 hits will hurt him, and they almost have at least one character in each unit, so my Hunter will also lay down at least 5A S6.
Base, I take my usual blocks but raise a bit the number of Ironguts I normally use (I usually go with 8+one character). I need those S6 attacks. Probably Tyrant + FB in Ironguts (hammer), BSB+SM in Ogres (anvil). The Gnoblars are there for the Watchtower and for Blood and Glory, and synergise well with Leadies.
Specials, some Leadies will give me some shooting, S4 piercing is the bane of Bretonnian knights. A good pack of Scouting and Stubborn Maneaters will have the role to force him to split his army to take care of them. The S5 attacks should hurt them. I'll use a Gorger to handle the probable Trebuchet or Mage Bunker, and otherwise S5, Killing Blow and Unbreakable should even give some nice support to Maneaters if necessary.
I purposedly don't take any Mournfang because I think my opponent will overreact to them while building his list. He's also very mobile which will give me a much harder time to get the necessary charge, and if he doesn't take infantry it will also decrease their potential.
Any thoughts ? The only think I fear to miss is an Ironblaster ...
