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For the razor standard, are you allowed to stack armor piercing? slapping it in a unit of maneater riflemen or leadbelchers for a total -3 save would be a nasty shock.
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Thuryon12 Oct 2011
I really like the Re-roll LD test banner on my MF's. They are more dependable that way, otherwise a single cannonball can send them packing.
Auere12 Oct 2011
For the razor standard, are you allowed to stack armor piercing? slapping it in a unit of maneater riflemen or leadbelchers for a total -3 save would be a nasty shock.
Armour piercing only benifits close combat attacks unless it is a part of a ranged weapons profile.
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grey templar12 Oct 2011
Special rules don't benifit Stomps but they do benifit impact hits and normal attacks.
so Mournfangs would have Armor Piercing impact hits and CC attacks(riders and kitties) but the stomps would be uneffected.
But the problem is that only 1 unit of Mournfangs can carry a magic standard. more pointless restrictions, until GW rewrites all the other army books.
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Auere12 Oct 2011
But the problem is that only 1 unit of Mournfangs can carry a magic standard. more pointless restrictions, until GW rewrites all the other army books.
More than one unit is kinda cheesy anyway, and with all those other fun and interesting units among the special choices, I think I would always only include a single unit.
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Ghunter12 Oct 2011
For the razor standard, are you allowed to stack armor piercing? slapping it in a unit of maneater riflemen or leadbelchers for a total -3 save would be a nasty shock.
Armor piercing doesn't stack, sorry!
You can stack AP and high strength hits but not 2 AP effects.
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dirtycrabcakes12 Oct 2011
But the problem is that only 1 unit of Mournfangs can carry a magic standard. more pointless restrictions, until GW rewrites all the other army books.
More than one unit is kinda cheesy anyway, and with all those other fun and interesting units among the special choices, I think I would always only include a single unit.
I was thinking that 2 units of 2 could be nice - then you set them up in an L shape:
Sure, you can charge my mournfangs... as long as you don't mind being flank charged by my other 2 mournfangs next round. Mwahahahaha....
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Fenrisnorth12 Oct 2011
For the razor standard, are you allowed to stack armor piercing? slapping it in a unit of maneater riflemen or leadbelchers for a total -3 save would be a nasty shock.
Armor piercing doesn't stack, sorry!
You can stack AP and high strength hits but not 2 AP effects.
Damnation, I remember there were some things that had double armor piercing back in the day, but alas the halcyon days of my youth are no more.
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Bob the Butcher12 Oct 2011
Okies the Frog Scroll is often overlooked and can be good used on a Lvl2 with a 2/3 chance of turning them into a Frog.
vs. Dark Elves if cast at the right time can wound or kill the level 2 Mage.
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Far2Casual13 Oct 2011
Frog Scroll is sooooo funny against combat Vampire Lords. I did that once against a Vampire on a Zombie Dragon, I had mad fun
Ghunter13 Oct 2011
Damnation, I remember there were some things that had double armor piercing back in the day, but alas the halcyon days of my youth are no more.
Bulls used to stack STR4 and the old Ogre Clubs rule (-1 to save but NOT AP). Put Razor Banner here and you had indeef a -3 to armor saves.
But these were the old days...
What about the Foldable Fortress with a unit of Leadbelchers ?
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Quote from: Wildcard on Feb 02, 2012, 10:22:35 AM
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grey templar13 Oct 2011
The fortress+leaddies is a decent firebase, but it basically means you will have NOTHING else on your general. and multiple Lords is just crazy talk under 3k nowdays.
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Salt Gut14 Oct 2011
The sword of striking is always overlooked +1 to hit for 15 points is amazing. Your Tyrant hits most things on 2's! Simple yet elegant.
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Captn Morgrim31 Oct 2011
Salt Gut, since my generals - be they a Bruiser, Tyrant, Bigboss, Warlord, Thane or Dwarf King - tend all to miss with their attacks I have to agree on that. Even more so, since ye can pump up an Ogre's Strength score in other ways.
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4 Arms31 Oct 2011
Salt Gut, since my generals - be they a Bruiser, Tyrant, Bigboss, Warlord, Thane or Dwarf King - tend all to miss with their attacks I have to agree on that. Even more so, since ye can pump up an Ogre's Strength score in other ways.
Thats one of my favorites. Sword of striking, Greedy fist and Giantbreaker. Love it.
charge as fast as you can for as long as you can and dont stop for any reason
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Coldblooded02 Nov 2011
firebellies can't have ironfist so can't have magic armors
I haven't played too many games just yet, but that statement implies that Butchers and SMs "can" take Magic Armors? is that confirmed or just presumed?
Edit: damn yea i forget the rule, if you can take normal armor you can take magic armor on Mages. Ironfist now counting as a shield in all respects, it completely went over my head because the Ironfist in the Army Book are listed along with the weapons. Thank you sir for a great reminder.
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forgottenlor02 Nov 2011
It is presumed and not confirmed. Still with Firebellies there is not question at all. They definately cannot take magic armour. Hopefully the official FAQ appears soon so we can no for sure.
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Auere02 Nov 2011
Thats one of my favorites. Sword of striking, Greedy fist and Giantbreaker. Love it.
Still, you could just take a great weapon and hit on 3s instead of 2s with the same strength. That would save you nearly 70 points...
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Slanderbot03 Nov 2011
Sword of striking, Greedy fist and Giantbreaker. Love it.
Still, you could just take a great weapon and hit on 3s instead of 2s with the same strength. That would save you nearly 70 points...
I agree with this, magic items are nice and shiny but usually expensive, sometimes going the cheap route gets you 90% of the stats for maybe 10% of the points! Although you would have to strike last with that GW .
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4 Arms03 Nov 2011
Thats one of my favorites. Sword of striking, Greedy fist and Giantbreaker. Love it.
Still, you could just take a great weapon and hit on 3s instead of 2s with the same strength. That would save you nearly 70 points...
I play against WoC and Dwarfs most of the time and striking last and hitting characters on 4+ is no good to me.
Plus the greedy fist is great against crazy dwarf weapons and 2+AS/4+ ward sorcerer lords.
charge as fast as you can for as long as you can and dont stop for any reason
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Auere03 Nov 2011
Still, my 4+ ward crown of command tyrant with great weapon doesnt die - EVER!
Greedy fist, giant breaker and sword of striking is 80 points. That means no crown of command and 20 points for protection.
I think a pick striking last and hitting one worse.
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