16 Sep 2011
I am trying to understand the order of resolution when a spell from the Lore of the Great Maw is cast with irresistible force (and hence also causes a miscast).
Do you resolve Bloodgruel first and then the miscast, or the miscast first and then (if the caster survives) bloodgruel?
The Bloodgruel description on p. 60 of the army book says to roll the D6 for Bloodgruel "immediately after resolving the effects of a successfully cast spell".
The Miscasts description on p. 34 of the BRB says that when irresistible force occurs, "first resolve the effect of the spell ..." and "Once the effect of the spell has been resolved, the Wizard now needs to roll 2D6 on the Miscast table...". Also, on p. 36 of the BRB in the Spell Resolution description it has a reminder that "you'll need to go back and resolve the result of the miscast as soon as you've finished resolving your spell effect."
"Immediately after" and "As soon as you've finished" both suggest that they are to occur after the spells effects have been resolved before other actions take place. Since they are essentially saying they are to take place at the same time, going to another section of the BRB (p. 10) under the Sequencing section it says that when the sequencing of rules is not clear that it is the player whose turn it is that chooses the order. This would suggest that we, as the ones casting the spell, would be able to choose which order to resolve the Bloodgruel/Miscast.
If so, which order would you use? Would you resolve Bloodgruel first and then the Miscast? Or would you resolve the Miscast first?
If it depends, what circumstances would prompt you to choose to resolve one first over the other?
For example, if my Butcher/SM was down to 1 wound left, I would probably resolve Bloodgruel first to get the wounds up to at least 2 so that a single S10 hit won't kill him during the Miscast; but if he had at least 3 wounds I would probably resolve the Miscast first and then Bloodgruel (if he isn't removed from a Cascade) to heal back a wound.
Has this come up in games for any of you? If so, how have you resolved it?
Do you resolve Bloodgruel first and then the miscast, or the miscast first and then (if the caster survives) bloodgruel?
The Bloodgruel description on p. 60 of the army book says to roll the D6 for Bloodgruel "immediately after resolving the effects of a successfully cast spell".
The Miscasts description on p. 34 of the BRB says that when irresistible force occurs, "first resolve the effect of the spell ..." and "Once the effect of the spell has been resolved, the Wizard now needs to roll 2D6 on the Miscast table...". Also, on p. 36 of the BRB in the Spell Resolution description it has a reminder that "you'll need to go back and resolve the result of the miscast as soon as you've finished resolving your spell effect."
"Immediately after" and "As soon as you've finished" both suggest that they are to occur after the spells effects have been resolved before other actions take place. Since they are essentially saying they are to take place at the same time, going to another section of the BRB (p. 10) under the Sequencing section it says that when the sequencing of rules is not clear that it is the player whose turn it is that chooses the order. This would suggest that we, as the ones casting the spell, would be able to choose which order to resolve the Bloodgruel/Miscast.
If so, which order would you use? Would you resolve Bloodgruel first and then the Miscast? Or would you resolve the Miscast first?
If it depends, what circumstances would prompt you to choose to resolve one first over the other?
For example, if my Butcher/SM was down to 1 wound left, I would probably resolve Bloodgruel first to get the wounds up to at least 2 so that a single S10 hit won't kill him during the Miscast; but if he had at least 3 wounds I would probably resolve the Miscast first and then Bloodgruel (if he isn't removed from a Cascade) to heal back a wound.
Has this come up in games for any of you? If so, how have you resolved it?
