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I speculate it would come down to unit placement. If you deploy your 3 bulls across from 4 ironguts, 6 bulls w/tyrant, and some leadbelchers, well, you're screwed. But meeting challenges with appropriate units, picking fights, and manuvering better than your opponent would truely be what makes the battle.
- Van Hellion
I think ( having the same army composition ) it is all about getting the charge and especially the impact hits. having more attacks then your opponent on the same strength is crucial.
- Lexy of the Ogrelix tribe
Well ogres will always try to get the charge if they can so don't let that happen. It's pretty easy to do. Just use you leadbelchers to shoot the hell out of them and then counter attack with the appropriate unit. Simple...
- Zuggut the FAT
cannibal totem
- namfoodle
siegebreaker could be handy too as we tend to have low initiative
- Khemriman
From my experience, since the two armies are rather similar in speed and both rely on killing things in combat to win, dice rolls are more important than usual.
Hence, items that grant you re-rolls are very worthwhile.
- Avian
Manslasher the 3rddate unknown
For starters to fight your self is kinda nuts but i see where it's goin' To fight other ogres (excuse my openess) go in and take them head on in Close combat a wipe da Bulls out first them toy with whats left but remember that in all probibilaty they will do the same thing...
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never forget your gnoblars - using them to full effect can make all the difference in a mirror match
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justanotherogredate unknown
Tenderiser Siegebreaker CANNIBAL TOTEM Daemonkiller scars LEADbelchers
ShrewdFulgdate unknown
Use the skullmantle to panic Bulls/ Gnoblars due to low/ average LD. Try some long range attacks to soften up units before fighting them. CANNIBAL TOTEM!!! Multi-wound weapons AKA tenderiser or thundermace. Get the charge with longstrider BN.
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Skullmantle = Ld on 6
Ouch
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when playing against ogres, remember to keep your troops close to your general to benefit from his leadership.
the key spell to get across is toothcracker - it makes a bigger difference in the mirror-match than trollguts
use gnoblars to halt his ironguts while yours deal with other stuff.
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the key spell to get across is toothcracker - it makes a bigger difference in the mirror-match than trollguts
Can you elaborate on this? because mathematically, you're incorrect. An extra die roll of 4+ to prevent a wound is much better then a bumb from 4+ to 5+ to wound, or 3+ instead of 2+in the case of IG's.
ForeversKnightdate unknown
well... Trisky indead. Try to have an army list that's not common- maybe take a weird amount of somthing to put your opponent off.
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the key spell to get across is toothcracker - it makes a bigger difference in the mirror-match than trollguts
Can you elaborate on this? because mathematically, you're incorrect. An extra die roll of 4+ to prevent a wound is much better then a bumb from 4+ to 5+ to wound, or 3+ instead of 2+in the case of IG's.
I'll not doubt that trollguts, mathematically, may stop more wounds than toothcracker, but it was the other effectrs of the spells, MR and stubbornness that I was more concerned with. With no/little fixed CR, being stubborn can really help you out.
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Tyrant Grogdate unknown
The game winner is getting the charge, the tenderiser will be a very important tool in this game, have a lone tyrant running around, with tenderiser and longstrider BN and he will eat entire units which will help alot. A skullmantle butcher will also dominate making their units flee.
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Revliddate unknown
I'll not doubt that trollguts, mathematically, may stop more wounds than toothcracker, but it was the other effectrs of the spells, MR and stubbornness that I was more concerned with. With no/little fixed CR, being stubborn can really help you out.
Mind you, MR (1) will really help when it comes to one-dice Gut Magic barrages. If your opponent is smart he'll be using Skullmantle+Braingobbler a lot, so Trollguts can help there.
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Olaf Sunsmasherdate unknown
And waht's even better is that trollguts gives you MR(2)
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run yhetees and give your tyrant longstrider - being able to get that charge is the key thing!
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You just better hope you're a better dice roller than your opponet is. B'ong
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take lots of butchers and ironguts butchers will give you the edge casting magic on your units. Ironguts will normally be wounding on 2s except for t 5 models remember your gut plate charge!! take scraplaunchers they will go through ogres like hot knifes through butter with there d 6 impact hits and a rhinoxen fighting
Fungus Tyrantdate unknown
Hello, I say it's down to your luck and experience with ogres.
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B.O.C.B.I.L.O.Tdate unknown
Not being an ogre player myself I suppose that I can't really say much, but if I were in an Ogres V Ogres battle I'd take a Scraplauncher and plenty of Trappers, so I don't have to be in close combat, and I'd also hope I got to go first, deploy my units well, get the charges, and pray to god that my dice are more lucky than my opponents.
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shavisdate unknown
It's definately got to have the Cannibal Totem.
This thread is wierd cuz we're telling each other how to destroy each other
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ompalloompa23 Dec 2008
tru ogres fall to ldrship it can be very very painful
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this is gen. smakin-dabum dis is our fishes fryer he does all da cookin of da fish, he sometimes gets carrieded away and puts it in his nasty soup of magics dis is my bestest friend he bonks me on da head and tells me when im bein stupedest his name is tiny he is my first his name is thumper i make him thump all of my food haha most recent game win against skaventabled
Irongut & Bull Hordes seem to be growing in popularity, has anyone played against this style of OK army, and if so, what was your army composition and how did it go?
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Brork Bonegut25 Nov 2010
Tenderiser on the tyrant. put him into an irongut group. watch him pulverise your enemy's Bulls. after that, as previouly said, roll better than your opponent does.
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Enkiel25 Nov 2010
it think it will all go down to magic. whoever get buff through wins.
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Kobold the Gnoblar09 Jun 2011
Cannibal Totem. This normally silly banner can be swapped for rune maw, since we don't have to worry about big explody spells. I would probably take out the scrappies, leadbelcher ect. Just go core + BSB, Tyrant, SM, Butcher. Standard deathstar. Except you will be re-rolling your dice and it will be too late before the opponent finds out about it.
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Torg14 Jun 2011
Wouldn't Yeti's be a good idea? Not having a save isn't much of a problem when your facing an army that takes away a 5+ anyway. Getting shot to bits is also not much of a problem because, well it's Ogres.
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Davespaceman16 Jun 2011
Bait and flee worked well for me yesterday
we know what the units can do so if you're not going to survive the charge don't take it.
HA useless vs ogres
Buffs can make a massive difference
Tenderiser much better than thundermace vs Ogres
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