Ogre Kingdoms Army Book Cover Spotted!

Source: WarSeer

Awesome!

Oohhhh boy, I'm so ready for this. I like that you can see a Stonehorn in the corner

Wow.  That is one ugly brute.  Well done.

had a peak at the white dwarf today... the rules will in my opinion... Ogres very competitive indeed for E.G
the 'Mammox' has an aura which makes enemies within 6 inchs always strike last ^_^

GGGGGAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH STOP WITH THE TEASING GW  ( only couple of more weeks )

The cover looks awesome

not a big fan of the cover myself... ther'Es something weird with that ogre (outside the fact he has very weird teeth)

This + the news that all maneaters will be available in finecast (together with ALL the other releases) from Sept 3rd = best news of the day :-)

That cover looks amazing so cant wait for the 3rd sept now gonna be a awesome day for the Ogres

I dunno; the whole look of the book and the artwork just feels... off to me. At first I thought it was just one or two pictures but it seems like the entire book gets this very retro-80's fantasy look. I guess that could be okay but I really liked the artwork in the first book (the official stuff anyways, not those sketches they slapped into the unit entries). They just... look like fat, pink Orcs to me. There, I said it.

They just... look like fat, pink Orcs to me. There, I said it.

OH NO YOU DI'INT

They just... look like fat, pink Orcs to me. There, I said it.

LMFAO!!!

/M

Price for the army book? $42.00!

Prices for the rest of the line; http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2011/08/24/49910/ 

Eric J

I think he looks weird. There something about his head and face that seem off to me.
Can't wait until Sept.

Price for the army book? $42.00!

That's hardcover right?

/M

not a big fan of the cover myself... ther'Es something weird with that ogre (outside the fact he has very weird teeth)

Yeah, I still can't get over the skin color change, plus all the new book cover art has been looking more cartoony than before.  Still nice enough though.  A man can only nit-pick so much...

They just... look like fat, pink Orcs to me. There, I said it.

The ogres have always been orcs. It'd be nice to see GW move away from us being orcs, but we're orcs (along with the beastmen).

Is it just me or is his head to small for his body. This might be what seems off putting with the image.

I'm fine with the cover. The teeth look a bit odd, but for me that just helps reinforce the idea that these guys aren't just some variant human.

Oh my Maw, yes that is the picture of my army that I want! ^^

Skin: I find the skin to be ok. I doubt the pink badlands ogres ate all Grey mountain of Mourn ogres >.<

Teeth: we're not related to humans, we're humanoids that look like humans. We diet on only meat (and the occasional gravel for fiber) it makes sense to give us teeth that reflect that fact.

The head: I find the head to be ok, the smaller the walnut the harder to crack(if the walnut has a neck it just complicates things)

C'mon, of course he's disproportioned : he's an OBESE brute with a giant belly !

There's also a Mournfang rider on the left, like it !

thats a good spot on the bnook art work-am realy looking foreward to seeing whats inside it. gw may soon put some stuff on the website too. very nice art work-i dont think that pink is the best choice of colours when there was 120 diffrent ones to choose from. not long now ....

I think it looks quite nice.

Come to think of it, this is actually the fourth hardback for WFB just this year. My WFB shelf is starting to look rather pretty with all these sturdy volumes.

I think it's his posture that causes the weirdness. He appears to be sitting on an invisable stool, or maybe he is secretly relieving himself? I don't know, maybe he is just balancing that huge belly of is.

I'm not that impressed by the art work, but I'm not one to judge a book by it's cover...

I think it is butt-ugly. But I'll still be buying it. Maybe I'll take pictures of my own army and laminate them/glue them over the top...s

I dunno; the whole look of the book and the artwork just feels... off to me. At first I thought it was just one or two pictures but it seems like the entire book gets this very retro-80's fantasy look. I guess that could be okay but I really liked the artwork in the first book (the official stuff anyways, not those sketches they slapped into the unit entries). They just... look like fat, pink Orcs to me. There, I said it.

Completely agree. Along with everything else, this release is just becoming less and less amazing. In fact, to me, it is becoming 'just another release'... Which is really quite depressing.

JJ

I like it-No it's not my fave by any means, but it is stylish and subjective in it's content. It screams 'Big Killing Machine' * with just a hint of Tatar Hordes..There I said it...

I'm sure any young un's new to the hobby will devour it, and I know I'll be getting one. I'll just be hoping that anyone new will go back a good few years and find out how good some of the older figures look

I actually like the artwork for it, it is very focused and I agree that it screams "KILLING MACHINE." I also like the fact his gut plate is the lid to the Steam Tank.

The way he is hovering, it is intimidating if you think if you were the one standing that close to him...

That Ogre looks very odd. hmmmmmm

... Well now I just have to have it...

Got my new white dwarf today, and it has the rules 4 the thundertusk/stonehorn and the stonehorn can be a hunters mount, but the thundertusk only carries beast riders, but it does have a stonethrower R- 6-24" S- 6 mul. wounds D3 that DOESNT use the stone throwers misfire chart all in all its a good issue i would like to see more conversions, and would like to see a new plastic Tyrant/Bruiser in the near future

This poor Ogre also happens to be.... an orphan! *Breaks down into mock tears*

I dunno; the whole look of the book and the artwork just feels... off to me. At first I thought it was just one or two pictures but it seems like the entire book gets this very retro-80's fantasy look.

It's happened to all the 8th edition armybooks, I personally really like it

Look at the vein on that gut's bicep...he must have picked up the Steam Tank and THREW it at the enemy... and look! He has roid rage to boot!

An ogre with roid rage...think on that one for a spell!

That's quite a vocabulary for an ogre...and a poet to boot...

Perhaps next edition we will have ogres reciting Shakespeare...macbeth...of course...!!!

Nah, the next one will be the Mikado, staring Bragg as the Lord High Executioner!

...So much for satire...

Nah, the next one will be the Mikado, staring Bragg as the Lord High Executioner!

lol at least someone got it..
The sheer campiness of the new artwork lends itself to the likes of Gilbert and Sullivan.. I REALLY miss karl kopinski and Paul dainton.

*No one noticed I fixed the teeth..*

looking at the song-edited picture, the perspective is of the viewer, a thinling obviously, lying on his back while the sing ogre steps towards you to finish you off. 

the most utterly humiliating thing:  being killed by an ogre singing show tunes. 


and then my mind spins out of control:
Mournfang riders singing "Rum-tum-tugger" from Cats
Leadbelchers doing "Point of No Return" from Phantom of the Opera
Firebelly "Hellfire" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Gnoblars chanting "It Sucks to be Me" from Avenue Q
Hunters going forward with "Kill The Beast" from Beauty and the Beast


... i better stop, before the tangents get worse.

Campy? Er, I wouldn't perhaps have used that term (I've never seen Nanki-Poo played by a 10-foot tall, tattooed, bloody-mouthed Ogre wearing an entire armoury and with those teeth), but I understand people's criticisms.

Zsoulless: Could you do use a massive favour? Any chance you could re-colour the sky to something more natural? I have a feeling it'd look considerably better.

Tyrants sing "Its Good to be the King" from History of the World Part I

looking at the song-edited picture, the perspective is of the viewer, a thinling obviously, lying on his back while the sing ogre steps towards you to finish you off. 

the most utterly humiliating thing:  being killed by an ogre singing show tunes. 


and then my mind spins out of control:
Mournfang riders singing "Rum-tum-tugger" from Cats
Leadbelchers doing "Point of No Return" from Phantom of the Opera
Firebelly "Hellfire" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Gnoblars chanting "It Sucks to be Me" from Avenue Q
Hunters going forward with "Kill The Beast" from Beauty and the Beast


... i better stop, before the tangents get worse.

Zsoulless: Could you do use a massive favour? Any chance you could re-colour the sky to something more natural? I have a feeling it'd look considerably better.

here.. a quick little color swap..

pulled a lot of the red out of the skin & changed the background color so it doesnt bleed between as much..
Im working atm so its kinda sloppy..

I for one think its look am million times better, but that accursed skin color is another story.

I agree with Goretooth, I don't understand the skin tone that makes them look like over stuffed humans....

Remember Prior to 2005 when ogres used to be flesh colored and the big fuss when GW Changed their studio Ogre's skin to Grey...?

Zsoulless that looks 150,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times better! +1  for fixing that and at least giving me a taste of what it SHOULD look like (and I finished your rank hehheheh)!

Lawdy!

That's amazing, Zsoulless.  I didn't hate the art to begin with, but now you've ruined it for me (in a good way).

Remember Prior to 2005 when ogres used to be flesh colored and the big fuss when GW Changed their studio Ogre's skin to Grey...?

That's exactly what I've been thinking.  In the grand scheme of things Ogres have been grey for less than 7 years - prior to that for the first 20 years they were 'flesh' coloured.  Some people preferred grey, some flesh.  At the end of the day it doesn't matter, 'cos you can paint them any colour you want - welcome to 'The Hobby'TM.

Took the words right out of my Maw Cormorant.

Zsoulless that looks 150,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times better! +1  for fixing that and at least giving me a taste of what it SHOULD look like (and I finished your rank hehheheh)!

Remember Prior to 2005 when ogres used to be flesh colored and the big fuss when GW Changed their studio Ogre's skin to Grey...?

That's exactly what I've been thinking.  In the grand scheme of things Ogres have been grey for less than 7 years - prior to that for the first 20 years they were 'flesh' coloured.  Some people preferred grey, some flesh.  At the end of the day it doesn't matter, 'cos you can paint them any colour you want - welcome to 'The Hobby'TM. 

This. They've been more fleshy than grey in the time I've been playing Warhammer, so it doesn't really bother me

Another Gnoblar from me Zsoulless for your alternate versions of the cover

I think I could be murdered here, but....

I think I like the new skin tone better than the old one…

I feel it's much more vibrant, which I think suits a race as restless, brutal and hearty as the Ogres. I loved the old scheme for it's uniqueness, but to me it did make them a little dull compared the the other, brighter races of Warhammer. That third pic... I dunno, just doesn't do it for me as much as the second or even first one.

I think I could be murdered here, but....

I think I like the new skin tone better than the old one…

I feel it's much more vibrant, which I think suits a race as restless, brutal and hearty as the Ogres. I loved the old scheme for it's uniqueness, but to me it did make them a little dull compared the the other, brighter races of Warhammer. That third pic... I dunno, just doesn't do it for me as much as the second or even first one.

I think, quite honestly, the man is a heretic...

JJ

*Climbs up to the top of his bell tower with a great black tome and starts babbling and screaming incoherently at passersby*

Burn the Heretic!!

While we are burning you at the stake...  ((I could care less what color ogres are..))

Campy? Er, I wouldn't perhaps have used that term (I've never seen Nanki-Poo played by a 10-foot tall, tattooed, bloody-mouthed Ogre wearing an entire armoury and with those teeth), but I understand people's criticisms.

I kind of ignored this before but what does campy have to do with "Nanki-Poo"..? 

[“Campy” adj. refers to intentionally exaggerated thematic or genre elements, especially in television and motion picture mediums. “Camp” style willfully over-emphasizes certain elements of the genre or theme, creating an almost self-satirical milieu.]

EDIT* looks like there are two different definitions for that term.. Never associated that term with being perverse or suggestive..
~Broke open my ancient Webster's to make sure I wasnt crazy and it defines campy as a parody or spoof~

*Climes up next to the heretic and offers Bugman's XXXXXX to any who join us in our glorious incoherent ramblings.*

I do like the Blue army book better than the orange one though.

I kind of ignored this before but what does campy have to do with "Nanki-Poo"..?

Well, I agreed that G&S could be a bit campy generally (not Nanki-Poo specifically, Poo-Bah probably would have been a better choice), but I didn't really see how that campyness was a quality shared by that Ogre on the cover, I was trying to disassociate the two.

Never associated that term with being perverse or suggestive..

Huh? Your dictionary is different to mine. Under 'camp' in mine it just says 'Kenneth Williams'.

*Climes up next to the heretic and offers Bugman's XXXXXX to any who join us in our glorious incoherent ramblings.*

*Generously accepts the Bugman's and then hurls Torg out of belltower to his inevitable death*

Sorry mate, it doesn't have the same effect with multiples. Have you ever seen more than one incoherent preacher in a single bell tower?

*Lands on grey templar and Mercules who are once again arguing over a rule.*  (No offense to either of you).

Yes I have: I watch the news.

The one thing that keeps bothering me is the fact is its no longer snowy on the army book or in white dwarf. Its like they got up and moved to the wastes.

WD does talk about the great migration a lot, so they're probably just doing the whole "I came, I saw, I ate it" thing.

I suppose that might explain it.

If you were a Roman-styled civilization as in one that conquers all set before them, your scenery would change too.  If you ever watched the HBO TV show that shows Rome and all its' greatness, they had similar discussions. lol  When they would take long campaigns into foreign lands, many of them wanted to go back to their vision of Rome.  However, since many of them came from different parts or joined in different times or for different reasons their vision of Rome was very different.


I personally liked the visual look of grey ogres, but I got knocked too hard on painting scores with my Beastmen to paint a dark army like that with no color, and I do not see ogres in bright cloths. hehe

I think I could be murdered here, but....

I think I like the new skin tone better than the old one…

I feel it's much more vibrant, which I think suits a race as restless, brutal and hearty as the Ogres. I loved the old scheme for it's uniqueness, but to me it did make them a little dull compared the the other, brighter races of Warhammer. That third pic... I dunno, just doesn't do it for me as much as the second or even first one.

*beats EG over the head repeatedly and starts eating his gnoblars* OGRES ARE NOT FAT HUMANS!!!! THEY ARE MONSTERS AND NEED DIFFERENT SKIN TONE!!!

*beats EG over the head repeatedly and starts eating his gnoblars* OGRES ARE NOT FAT HUMANS!!!! THEY ARE MONSTERS AND NEED DIFFERENT SKIN TONE!!!

DWARFS ARE NOT SHORT HUMANS! THEY'RE A DIFFERENT RACE AND NEED A DIFFERENT SKIN TONE!
GIANTS ARE NOT TALL HUMANS! THEY'RE MONSTERS AND NEED A DIFFERENT SKIN TONE!
ELVES ARE NOT GANGLY HUMANS! THEY'RE A DIFFERENT RACE AND NEED A DIFFERENT SKIN TONE!

Need I go on?

Paint them whatever colour you want - I'll be painting mine whatever colour I want and no-one will care one bit.

*Grabs his Tallarn Flesh paintball gun*

Counter-attack my pretties! Leave no skin left untouched!

*smashes difisher a good one just "because"*


I am thinking of making that volcano theme, my friends are really pushing me to do it and I think I will like it. The bases will be a lot different, that for sure. I also think I will have the skin tones a dark gray with slightly lighter highlights... that way the red and oranges from the pants will really stick out.

That's quite a vocabulary for an ogre...and a poet to boot...

Perhaps next edition we will have ogres reciting Shakespeare...macbeth...of course...!!!

I would prefer a Hamlet Ogre " To eat, or not to eat, that is the question"

I would prefer a Hamlet Ogre " To eat, or not to eat, that is the question"

That's never a question. Always to eat!

But what about the slings and sharpstuff of outrageous fate?

take the arms of a sea of thinlings, and by opposing eat them.

I would prefer a Hamlet Ogre " To eat, or not to eat, that is the question"

That's never a question. Always to eat!

Ogre hamlet rephrased "To eat or to eat. If it got lots of gold, eat later"

Either way the Ogre gets a full pouch

"To charge, or not to charge, that is the question"

That's not the question!

"To charge them or to charge them, that is the question"

An impact hit! A palpable impact hit!

That's not the question!

"To charge them or to charge them, that is the question"

unless they are leadbelchers

*smashes difisher a good one just "because"*


I am thinking of making that volcano theme, my friends are really pushing me to do it and I think I will like it. The bases will be a lot different, that for sure. I also think I will have the skin tones a dark gray with slightly lighter highlights... that way the red and oranges from the pants will really stick out.

I have seen several armies that go this way, as I am sure we all have, but I will say that one thing that a 40mm base offers that most other armies do not get to enjoy is space to have OSL, and to tell a story with the bases.  For example, and this is giving me ideas btw...You could have a rock or piece or wood on your base, that is cut in half and placed on two separate bases so they meet perfectly when you place the model on the board.  You could paint the end which I would recommend and even partly conceal by not making it a straight line on the cut that it is a part of another base as well when placed next to it.  You could do that well with valleys of lava and or rock mounds on the command bases since you know they are always going to be on the front, and are the most seen from the front.

I agree the newer models on their even larger bases could really look sharp on them with a nice theme.  This would also give you a chance to use water effects and osl effects on the bases without being cramped.

I would caution some on going gray with a black and greay base as the primary colors.  I would make them an off gray by blending in a purple or a brown.  I can post pictures of a Fire Giant I painted a long time ago using some Gray/Purple/Black blend and you can see what I mean if you want.






As far as why the color of Ogres matter I come up with this line of thought from GW perspective.  They had several light skin armies 7 or so years ago, and Ogres are mostly flesh colored, so they wanted some other colored armies on the battle field... or so they would hope you believe.   However, IMO the reason why they changed the color, and then kind of changed it back again has to do with sells.  They have the same plastic models basically they have had for a while, so there is no need to go buy some more models, and lets be honest it is one of the cheapest armies to get into.  You can have a very effective army and probably play the same army as you already have.  The new models are cool looking, but they do not look so over powered that other than looking awesome we want to buy them all.

I have personally bought a lot, but that is because I like the models, and would do it regardless of a color change.  Everyone who has dark gray ogres now will be seen as normal, but in 3 or 4 years if people start painting their models with the pink hue than  those models will be seen as old school, and will be laughed at much like my entire army of 2nd ed nids.   Everyone loves a screamer, but they would not field a whole army from that time.... everyone but me maybe. heh

I just point out that my Genestealers give my Hive Tyrant cover in the new rules and people tend to laugh a little.

Please do post those pics Xoan that would be great thanks. I appreciate the ideas for the bases as well...this is inspiring!

I dont like the new covers AT ALL. the 6th edition artwork was the best and most belevable. I dont get why they dont hire the same painters again 

I dont like the new covers AT ALL. the 6th edition artwork was the best and most belevable. I dont get why they dont hire the same painters again 

Agreed, for the most part.  I don't hate the new stuff on its own, but compared to the old cover art it's bollocks.