Hello and help please

Howdi from down under.
Just wanted to say hi. I'm form Sydney Australia and am newly returning to WHFB with 8th edition. I previously played 3rd, 4th and 5th ed's but gave it away with 6th and 7th.

I play 40k fairly competitively, however looked at 8th ed warhammer and liked what I saw in terms of a fun garage with mates type game.

My experience with 8th so far has been with Empire. I love plasting away with cannons and mortars. However thats all the army really has going for it. Sit and shoot gets kinda boring.

I had the chance to trade one of my 40k armies for some Ogres, and thinking they looked fun to paint I went for it. Reading through their army book, they just don't seem that competitive, but do look to be fun. I don't mind loosing so long as I enjoy the game, but that said I would like to give them the best go I can.

What I have is:
Tyant with sword & club
Bruiser BSB with Great Weapon
2 x Butchers/slaughter masters
5 x bulls club/ironfist
7 x bulls club/ironfist
7 x ironguts
1 x hunter w 2 x sabre tusks
1 x slave giant
7 x leadbelchers
10 x Gnoblar Trappers
3 x Yhetees
3 x Gorgers

WHat would people recomend with that lot and what should I look to get? Looking in the lists forum I see alot of armies have Gnoblar units. What role to they fill and do you think they are neccesarry in a succesful Ogre list? They strike me as using up points that could be spent on more glorious bellys!

Any advice and suggestions are appreciated.

My opinion about the gnoblars is that they are as most people call "tarpits" which means they tie up pesky enemy units to attack later with a unit of ogres. I would also recommend getting acouple of scraplaunchers for the ranged support. Ogres may dominate in close combat but ranged does its toll against them. So by having a scraplauncher you can rid yourself of ranged enemy unit, freeing you up to melee enemy units.

you have a decent force there, but it is filled with some of the more meh things in our book.


Hunters, Leadbeltchers, and Yhetees are all subpar and shouldn't be included except at VERY high point levels where they begin to have some marginal use.


My reccomendation is to try and convert the Leaddies into Bulls. that will give you 19 Bulls which is a good start.



Gnoblars are required to get Scraplaunchers which are all flavors of awsome.

they are also the ultimate tarpit with the new steadfast rules. and because 6s always wound they can actually kill things.



you have no Butchers or Slaughter masters. this is a problem. either convert a couple from other ogres or get some of the GW ones.

He actually has 2 butchers/slaughtermasters according to that list Other than that I agree with Grey Templar. Gnoblars, being 2 points a model are a dirt cheap way of getting lots of ranks into an ogre army. Kept near the general and you have a steadfast ld 9 unit that likely will stick around for a couple rounds against pretty much anything. As mentioned a gnoblar unit is required to take the scrap launcher which is an amazing piece of death dealing equipment at range for ogres. Since it is a chariot/stonethrower that uses the large blast template and has killing blow it does a damn fine job of slaughtering the big blocks of troops you see nowadays as a direct hit can wounds like 30+ models on a 20mm base.

I to traded away a 40k army for my ogres.....I haven't been disapointed once with them at least since 8th came out. Also, you'll find that as long as your friends aren't just using purple sun or pit of shades on you non stop (Inititive tests when your I2 suck) that Ogres do a damn fine job of holding their own against just about every other army. Other than when I've been magicked out of the game I've found that not many armies can stand up to team fat in CC and wind up on top:) the sheer number of wounds we can generate on people makes them cry

looks like i missed them