06 Feb 2010
Hey guys, just had my first battle with a proxy ogre list vs some dark elves. Overall I enjoyed playing ogres and had a good time.
The lists-
Ogre 1500
Heroes
Butcher 180
Bangstick, Dispel Scroll
Butcher 180
Skullmantle, Seigebreaker
Brusier 184
Tenderiser, H.Armour
Core
3 Bulls 117
H.wep
3 Bulls 117
H.wep
3 Ironguts 144
H.arm, G.wep
4 Ironguts 192
H.arm, G.wep
20 Gnoblar Fighters 40
Sharp Stuff
7 Gnoblar Trappers 54
Sharp Stuff
Special
2 Leadbeltchers 110
2 Leadbeltchers 110
Rare
Gorger 75
Dark Elf 1500
lvl 2 Sorc
Scroll, Tome of Furion
lvl 2 Sroc
Dagger, Pearl of Bleakness
Master (general)
Dark steed, lifetaker, HA, SDC, Shield, Lance, null talisman
Core
21 Warriors
FC, Shield
21 Warriors
FC, Shield
14 Warriors
FC, Shield
10 Corsairs
handbows, mus
5 Harpies
Special
Cold one chariot
Cold one Chariot
Rare
2 RBT
Now, things to note from the start. This is my 1500 Dark Elf list that I took to 2 tournies and won, and my fellow dark elf playing friend wanted to see it in action so he used it. Second, I forgot I had a gorger and as such you will not see him appear in this game, ever lol... That aside, here we go!
Deployment - http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq345/Gruzuk/OgrevsDarkelf.jpg
Turn 1 Ogres -
Movement - Moved my middle forces up to face his blocks, angled my left guts to face his chariot, put my leddies on the hill, awaiting his corsairs, moved my fighters behind my lines so i could attempt to hit some harpies if they tried to march block.
Magic- Bangstick dispelled, put strength on left ironguts, but trollguts on brusier unit.
Dark Elves -
Movement- his left chariot went stupid. Moved his right block of warriors up to bait my brusier unit, and angled back his other big block so he could flank charge if they survived. moved harpies behind lines like i expected, and advanced everything else. he angled his master on horse towards my trappers to pick some off, and charge them next turn to save his RBT.
Magic- Blade wind took a wound off the left ironguts, and he forgot to get rid of trollguts, hells yeah.
Shooting- sniped a trapper, did 2 wounds on the right leadbelchers. RBT took out a full irongut from the left unit.
Ogre 2 -
Movement- Trappers bickered so they couldn't charge the RBT. Brusier unit charged baiting Dark Warriors, both belchers moved up to unload, right bulls moved to intercept the right chariot so it couldn't charge my brusier unit next turn. and the left ironguts moved up taunting the left chariot.
Magic - bangstick dispelled, bonecruncher got off on his master, killing him, Brained his sorc holding unit, but he passed with ease, also put toothcracker on right bulls.
Shooting- Ok, I'm not sure if I did this correct but this is how I shot my belchers. the right unit killed 7 corsairs who fled, rolling 2 hits and 2 misfires, I rolled each guy separately so I could see which one would misfire, the misfires took my belchers down to a single wound, but he held. The left belchers shot at the stupid chariot, misfired once, doing 2 wounds to the chariot, and 5 to themselves, and fled.
Combat- Ok, he declined my challenge, preventing overkill, but I still obliterated more than half the unit, and he was to autobreak from outnumbering fear, but he rolled Insane Courage!! Thus allowing my brusier unit to get flanked next turn, uh oh.
Dark Elf 2 -
Movement - Charged right chariot into bulls whom held, Warriors charged into Brusier unit's flank. Right chariot now only having 2 wounds, and scared of the s7 ironguts moved behind them instead.
Magic - The fresh unit of warriors now cause fear, and Magic missiles took down another Irongut.
Shooting- the RBT's killed both remaining units of leadbelchers, damn. The chariot shot at the ironguts, 4 shots needing 6's to hit, and 5's to wound, killed off an entire irongut, causing them to panic. >.>
Combat- Ok, so I thought I was screwed this combat, being flanked, outnumbered, 3 ranks, banner, and going second in combat. I challenged with my tyrant again, and after having lost 4 men from him last time he took the challenge with his champ, so he could keep his outnumber, boy was he in for a surprise. his warriors with spears pumped out 14 attacks on me, wounding twice, which I promptly saved with my heavy armour, go ironguts. Reaping full +6 overkill, and killing some more with my seigebreaker and ironguts, I ended up winning by 6. He didn't get snake eyes this time so I choose to run down the larger unit, pursuing into the side of his sorc unit.
The chariot whom charged my bulls pulled out a massive 5 wounds, and my clubs put 2 wounds back on him, they held on their stubborn.
Ogre 3 -
Movement - Failed to rally ironguts, turned my butcher w/bulls toward chariot, trappers bickered AGAIN! tossing any hope I had left in them for taking out the RBT.
Magic - Bonecruncher failed to kill the chariot, forgot to recast trollguts or toothcracker on brusier unit, doh. healed up my right butcher to full, bit of a mistake here, i had it twice on him, forgetting he could only cast it once per turn, though I did increase the difficulty with the second cast.
Shooting - My fighters shine here, being on a hill they got 2 ranks of shooting at the harpies and pelted them all into the ground! Amazing!
Combat - Chariot grinds down the bulls to a single wound, but he holds on stubbornly (haha, puns). Thankfully the two in contact with the sorc unit are my brusier and butcher, whom proceed to kill the sorc in base contact, and some warriors, with no return attacks they flee through the RBT and off the board, I pursue but fall short of the RBT, unknowingly leaving my flank open to a charge by the chariot.
Dark Elf 3-
Movement- Charges chariot into Brusier unit flank, rallies corsairs.
Shooting- RBT kills 2 trappers and they flee, stupid buggers. Other RBT kills 4 fighters.
Combat- This chariot enraged to see my brusier already feasting on the sorc he just felled, unleashes a brutal hell upon my poor ironguts, dealing a MASSIVE 6 wounds, the max possible for the chariot, wiping out my ironguts and not allowing any return fire as my brusier was not in base contact. I broke and ran off the board, BLARG! run down by a half dead chariot!
After this small victory for the Dark Elves he conceded, having pretty much nothing left on the board.
Afterthoughts -
-So, Ironguts with characters in them hit like 15 trucks.
-Leadbelchers will hurt something a LOT, usually both the enemy and themselves.
-Castable Stubborn is AMAZING. Able to make a hard to break unit out of even a measly unit of bulls anywhere you want at any time is a very handy tool for tactics.
-I hate bickering trappers. it made me miss out of killing a RBT turn 2, thus making my ironguts suffer.
-Being on the other end of hatred chariots HURTS. People underestimate the dark elf chariot, seeing their power reminds me of why I made that list.
All in all it was a blast, Massacre to the Ogres! off to a good start.
Any C&C are appreciated, hope you like it.
The lists-
Ogre 1500
Heroes
Butcher 180
Bangstick, Dispel Scroll
Butcher 180
Skullmantle, Seigebreaker
Brusier 184
Tenderiser, H.Armour
Core
3 Bulls 117
H.wep
3 Bulls 117
H.wep
3 Ironguts 144
H.arm, G.wep
4 Ironguts 192
H.arm, G.wep
20 Gnoblar Fighters 40
Sharp Stuff
7 Gnoblar Trappers 54
Sharp Stuff
Special
2 Leadbeltchers 110
2 Leadbeltchers 110
Rare
Gorger 75
Dark Elf 1500
lvl 2 Sorc
Scroll, Tome of Furion
lvl 2 Sroc
Dagger, Pearl of Bleakness
Master (general)
Dark steed, lifetaker, HA, SDC, Shield, Lance, null talisman
Core
21 Warriors
FC, Shield
21 Warriors
FC, Shield
14 Warriors
FC, Shield
10 Corsairs
handbows, mus
5 Harpies
Special
Cold one chariot
Cold one Chariot
Rare
2 RBT
Now, things to note from the start. This is my 1500 Dark Elf list that I took to 2 tournies and won, and my fellow dark elf playing friend wanted to see it in action so he used it. Second, I forgot I had a gorger and as such you will not see him appear in this game, ever lol... That aside, here we go!
Deployment - http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq345/Gruzuk/OgrevsDarkelf.jpg
Turn 1 Ogres -
Movement - Moved my middle forces up to face his blocks, angled my left guts to face his chariot, put my leddies on the hill, awaiting his corsairs, moved my fighters behind my lines so i could attempt to hit some harpies if they tried to march block.
Magic- Bangstick dispelled, put strength on left ironguts, but trollguts on brusier unit.
Dark Elves -
Movement- his left chariot went stupid. Moved his right block of warriors up to bait my brusier unit, and angled back his other big block so he could flank charge if they survived. moved harpies behind lines like i expected, and advanced everything else. he angled his master on horse towards my trappers to pick some off, and charge them next turn to save his RBT.
Magic- Blade wind took a wound off the left ironguts, and he forgot to get rid of trollguts, hells yeah.
Shooting- sniped a trapper, did 2 wounds on the right leadbelchers. RBT took out a full irongut from the left unit.
Ogre 2 -
Movement- Trappers bickered so they couldn't charge the RBT. Brusier unit charged baiting Dark Warriors, both belchers moved up to unload, right bulls moved to intercept the right chariot so it couldn't charge my brusier unit next turn. and the left ironguts moved up taunting the left chariot.
Magic - bangstick dispelled, bonecruncher got off on his master, killing him, Brained his sorc holding unit, but he passed with ease, also put toothcracker on right bulls.
Shooting- Ok, I'm not sure if I did this correct but this is how I shot my belchers. the right unit killed 7 corsairs who fled, rolling 2 hits and 2 misfires, I rolled each guy separately so I could see which one would misfire, the misfires took my belchers down to a single wound, but he held. The left belchers shot at the stupid chariot, misfired once, doing 2 wounds to the chariot, and 5 to themselves, and fled.
Combat- Ok, he declined my challenge, preventing overkill, but I still obliterated more than half the unit, and he was to autobreak from outnumbering fear, but he rolled Insane Courage!! Thus allowing my brusier unit to get flanked next turn, uh oh.
Dark Elf 2 -
Movement - Charged right chariot into bulls whom held, Warriors charged into Brusier unit's flank. Right chariot now only having 2 wounds, and scared of the s7 ironguts moved behind them instead.
Magic - The fresh unit of warriors now cause fear, and Magic missiles took down another Irongut.
Shooting- the RBT's killed both remaining units of leadbelchers, damn. The chariot shot at the ironguts, 4 shots needing 6's to hit, and 5's to wound, killed off an entire irongut, causing them to panic. >.>
Combat- Ok, so I thought I was screwed this combat, being flanked, outnumbered, 3 ranks, banner, and going second in combat. I challenged with my tyrant again, and after having lost 4 men from him last time he took the challenge with his champ, so he could keep his outnumber, boy was he in for a surprise. his warriors with spears pumped out 14 attacks on me, wounding twice, which I promptly saved with my heavy armour, go ironguts. Reaping full +6 overkill, and killing some more with my seigebreaker and ironguts, I ended up winning by 6. He didn't get snake eyes this time so I choose to run down the larger unit, pursuing into the side of his sorc unit.
The chariot whom charged my bulls pulled out a massive 5 wounds, and my clubs put 2 wounds back on him, they held on their stubborn.
Ogre 3 -
Movement - Failed to rally ironguts, turned my butcher w/bulls toward chariot, trappers bickered AGAIN! tossing any hope I had left in them for taking out the RBT.
Magic - Bonecruncher failed to kill the chariot, forgot to recast trollguts or toothcracker on brusier unit, doh. healed up my right butcher to full, bit of a mistake here, i had it twice on him, forgetting he could only cast it once per turn, though I did increase the difficulty with the second cast.
Shooting - My fighters shine here, being on a hill they got 2 ranks of shooting at the harpies and pelted them all into the ground! Amazing!
Combat - Chariot grinds down the bulls to a single wound, but he holds on stubbornly (haha, puns). Thankfully the two in contact with the sorc unit are my brusier and butcher, whom proceed to kill the sorc in base contact, and some warriors, with no return attacks they flee through the RBT and off the board, I pursue but fall short of the RBT, unknowingly leaving my flank open to a charge by the chariot.
Dark Elf 3-
Movement- Charges chariot into Brusier unit flank, rallies corsairs.
Shooting- RBT kills 2 trappers and they flee, stupid buggers. Other RBT kills 4 fighters.
Combat- This chariot enraged to see my brusier already feasting on the sorc he just felled, unleashes a brutal hell upon my poor ironguts, dealing a MASSIVE 6 wounds, the max possible for the chariot, wiping out my ironguts and not allowing any return fire as my brusier was not in base contact. I broke and ran off the board, BLARG! run down by a half dead chariot!
After this small victory for the Dark Elves he conceded, having pretty much nothing left on the board.
Afterthoughts -
-So, Ironguts with characters in them hit like 15 trucks.
-Leadbelchers will hurt something a LOT, usually both the enemy and themselves.
-Castable Stubborn is AMAZING. Able to make a hard to break unit out of even a measly unit of bulls anywhere you want at any time is a very handy tool for tactics.
-I hate bickering trappers. it made me miss out of killing a RBT turn 2, thus making my ironguts suffer.
-Being on the other end of hatred chariots HURTS. People underestimate the dark elf chariot, seeing their power reminds me of why I made that list.
All in all it was a blast, Massacre to the Ogres! off to a good start.
Any C&C are appreciated, hope you like it.
Collected Armies:
Iron Warriors
Dark Elves
Ogre Kingdoms
Trollbloods
Iron Warriors
Dark Elves
Ogre Kingdoms
Trollbloods
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