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Good rule? or am I mising something?

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If I give a tyrant beast killer and the tenderiser does that mean each of his atacks ( when fighting something big ) that means each attack does d3 x 2 wounds?
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I don't think you can have a magic weapon if you take beast killer, but i never use it and dont have the book with me.
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You can carry a magic weapon if you have Beastkiller, but Beastkiller explicitly states you only double the wounds dealt by mundane weapons.
Quote from: Ganymede on Mar 26, 2009, 11:17:45 AM
If by RAW, you mean "Reg06's Audacious Whims", then you'd be right.
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dang it my tyrant will never kill a daemon lord!
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a normal great weapon and beastkiller will do it just fine - just like a tendersier vs. alrge targets but without the variability.
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In fact, the big T and Beastkiller end up the same. Average on a d3 is 2, so statistically speaking they cause the same number of wounds if the tyrant has a mundane GW.
Quote from: Ganymede on Mar 26, 2009, 11:17:45 AM
If by RAW, you mean "Reg06's Audacious Whims", then you'd be right.
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Beastkiller works where Tenderiser does not (Obsidian Armour on a Bloodthirster!)
Beastkiller works where Tenderiser does not (Obsidian Armour on a Bloodthirster!)
And tenderizer works where beastkiller doesn't: ethereals, treeman (actually it still does work, but the tenderizer makes all saves dissapear.)

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Now all we need is the 7th edition rule that said if the models are killed they don't get to fight and we WOULD be a broken army! lol

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hence why I still have the tenderiser on a bruiser now that I have chosen to equip my tyrant differently - covering both options.

on average the beastkiller and tenderiser end up the same, but with beastkiller you know you'll always be getting 2 wounds/hit.  With the tenderiser you might still only get 1 wound/hit or you could get 3 - making beastkiller a little more relaible, or at least, predictable. :)
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There is an extra point: beastkiller makes you forget about psicology, but you cannot choose flee as the reaction when being charged: you have to endure whatever is coming on your way. On the other hand, you do not depend on snake eyes when you loose a combat against the great daemon or a dragon.
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On the other hand, you do not depend on snake eyes when you loose a combat against the great daemon or a dragon.
You'll only need insane courage if the daemon or dragon outnumbers the tyrant's unit, which is unlikely unless the tyrant is alone. Otherwise you'd need the daemon/dragon to win by 8 or more, which is unlikely.
Quote from: Ganymede on Mar 26, 2009, 11:17:45 AM
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You'll only need insane courage if the daemon or dragon outnumbers the tyrant's unit, which is unlikely unless the tyrant is alone. Otherwise you'd need the daemon/dragon to win by 8 or more, which is unlikely.

True, I was thinking in a tyrant going solo :)
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I still prefer the tenderizer as you are only saving 20 points with the big name, but the tenderizer works on multi-wound heros and lords and the big name doesn't.
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